On Sonntag, 21. Januar 2024 15:11:46 -03 gene heskett wrote:
> On 1/21/24 09:04, Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ wrote:
> > On Sonntag, 21. Januar 2024 02:35:13 -03 gene heskett wrote:
> >> I'm trying to get our states Attorney General to exert some
> >> influence
> >> over a cell phone bill I don't owe. The AG has sent me a form
> >> letter
> >> PDF with fill in the blanks for all the info.
> >> 
> >> Do we have an editor in our arsenal that can do that to a pdf?
> >> 
> >> Thanks all.
> >> 
> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> > 
> > Just a remark.
> > Gene,
> > many people (working in General Attorney offices too) do not know
> > that they must not simply send a dokument to PRINT as PDF but that
> > it is necessary to EXPORT the document as PDF. If it is sent to
> > print then it loses all ability to fill in the form, because it
> > ends up as a PDF which is meant to be printed and nothing else.
> > If the the form has fields to be filled by the receiver of the form,
> > then the only way to go is (for example with Libreoffice Writer)
> > export as PDF. If you have received a form you may open it using
> > Okular. If Okular then shows:
> > "This document has forms. Click on the button to interact with them,
> > or use View -> Show Forms." and also shows the pertinent button
> > "Show Forms" then all is well.
> > If Okular does not show the message nor the button then you are out
> > of luck.
> > You might ask the sender to send the form again but this time using
> > "Export to pdf" instead of just sending it as a file to the pdf
> > printer. But many an office worker is too computer illiterate to
> > manage "such a complex task" (it's not complicated).
> > Then all options left to you is painting over the pdf. Either by
> > using a drwaing program like other already mentioned or by using
> > Okular and trying to insert text over the form. It's try-and-error
> > to hit the right spot.
> > *Important:*
> > In any case THEN you need to send the form as file to a pdf printer.
> > Otherwise the overlay is only stored on your disk but will not be
> > sent to the intended receiver together with the original pdf file.
> > 
> > Hope eventually all goes well for you and all the best to you
> > Eike
> > --
> > Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
> 
> Most informative. thank you a lot Eike. I have, on another workspace
> after installing it "xournal" has opened that pdf, I have enabled the
> add annotations function but not killed a tree to test print.  I see
> both "print" and "Export as pdf" in the file menu.
> 
> Are you saying that I should do the annotations, then export to pdf,
> in order to overlay my notes over that file and then print that
> exported pdf in sufficient copies for the AG office's slaves. Or if
> its correct, email the exported pdf back to them. I think that may be
> the expected response from me.

You can do the annotations and directly print as file to a pdf-printer. 
The resulting file can then be sent to the office. You might have to rename 
the file because it will most certainly have a name like print.pdf which 
is not very informative for storing.
> 
> Sounds a bit complex but if xournal works as indicated its doable from
> my viewpoint.
> 
> Thanks again Eike, Take care, stay warm, dry & well please
Well yes, it's quite warm her in Asunción - about 34°C / 93°F
;-)
All the best
Eike

Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE



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