On 2023-12-10, Gary Dale <g...@extremeground.com> wrote: > > On 2023-12-10 12:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 05:09:15PM -0000, Curt wrote: >>> On 2023-12-10, Andrew M.A. Cater <amaca...@einval.com> wrote: >>>> "Now" is almost exactly Sun 10 Dec 16:55:43 UTC 2023 >>> You mean in the Zulu Time Zone (as I am all at sea)? >> Use "date -u" to see current UTC time. That should be sufficient to >> let you know how long it has been since Andrew's "now". >> > You're getting too complicated. The date stamp on his e-mail will > display the correct local time (as you have set it) so I can see that he > wrote it 30 minutes ago. That relative time is universal across time zones. > >
It is the notion of simultaneity itself (the now of now) that is relative rather than universal.