On 13/8/23 08:12, davidson wrote:
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote:
[snip]
Hello.
Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and
the "unubscribe" thread?
In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages
from my inbox to a dedicated folder.
Here is a sample of what I see in alpine, when I view the contents of
that mail folder, in threaded mode with threads collapsed:
%<------------------------------------------------------------------------------
18284 9:42 Hans (7K) Re:
libkscreenlocker5:
N 18285 Yesterday pe...@easthope.ca (6K) > Crosshairs in
gimp 2.1
N 18288 15:45 Erwan David (8K) > Swap size in
debain 12
18292 12:35 Greg Wooledge (7K) Re: Mailing
list unsub
* N 18293 Wednesday Carl Fink (6K) > Sound loses my
analog * 18298 Thursday glenn green (6K) > UNUBSCRIBE
N 18332 11:44 Piscium (7K) > Cannot
install Debian
N 18339 13:45 pe...@easthope.ca (6K) > Time stamps
on session
* 18342 14:49 gene heskett (6K) > setting up
network wit
------------------------------------------------------------------------------>%
All 34 messages (at this time) to the UNUBSCRIBE thread are collapsed;
only the OP's initial message is visible. As long as I retain the
thread-initial message, subsequent contributions to that thread will
be invisible, in this collapsed view.
If a thread interests me, say Carl Fink's, I can expand it:
%<------------------------------------------------------------------------------
18284 9:42 Hans (7K) Re:
libkscreenlocker5:
N 18285 Yesterday pe...@easthope.ca (6K) > Crosshairs in
gimp 2.1
N 18288 15:45 Erwan David (8K) > Swap size in
debain 12
18292 12:35 Greg Wooledge (7K) Re: Mailing
list unsub
* 18293 Wednesday Carl Fink (6K) . Sound loses my
analog * 18294 Thursday Marco (5K) . \-Re:
Sound loses my a
18295 Yesterday Carl Fink (30K) . \-Re: Sound
loses my
18296 5:05 Marco (5K) . \-Re:
Sound loses
N 18297 14:49 Carl Fink (6K) \-Re:
Sound lose
* 18298 Thursday glenn green (6K) > UNUBSCRIBE
N 18332 11:44 Piscium (7K) > Cannot
install Debian
N 18339 13:45 pe...@easthope.ca (6K) > Time stamps
on session
* 18342 14:49 gene heskett (6K) > setting up
network wit
------------------------------------------------------------------------------>%
But if a thread does *not* interest me, I don't expand it, and then
the only visible effect of subsequent contributions to that thread is
to promote the thread down the list (since threads nearer the bottom
are more recently active).
[snip]
So, please, shut the two threads down, so the mailing list can return
to the subject matter for which the list was created and is
maintained; discussion of the use of Debian, and, seeking help with
the operating system, and, not the extraneous (extreme euphemism)
"stuff", that has arisen, like a living, growing, cesspool.
The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's
threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find
irrelevant to my interests: I view debian-user in threaded mode with
collapsed threads, and simply do not expand the ones that don't
concern me.
I believe these are the config settings I use to enable this:
...
[X] Thread Sorts by Arrival
...
Sort Key =
Set Sort Options
--- ----------------------
( ) Subject
( ) Arrival
( ) From
( ) To
( ) Cc
( ) Date
( ) siZe
( ) OrderedSubj
( ) scorE
(*) tHread
( ) Reverse Subject
( ) Reverse Arrival
( ) Reverse From
( ) Reverse To
( ) Reverse Cc
( ) Reverse Date
( ) Reverse siZe
( ) Reverse OrderedSubj
( ) Reverse scorE
( ) Reverse tHread
...
Threading Display Style =
Set Rule Values
--- ----------------------
( ) none
(*) show-thread-structure (default)
( ) mutt-like
( ) indent-subject-1
( ) indent-subject-2
( ) indent-from-1
( ) indent-from-2
( ) show-structure-in-from
...
Threading Index Style =
Set Rule Values
--- ----------------------
( ) regular-index-with-expanded-threads
(*) regular-index-with-collapsed-threads
( ) separate-index-screen-always
( ) separate-index-screen-except-for-single-messages
Threading Indicator Character = <No Value Set: using ">">
Threading Expanded Character = <No Value Set: using ".">
Threading Last Reply Character = <No Value Set: using "\">
I like also to set the option below, because I find that being able to
collapse sub-threads turns out to be more confusing (to me) than it is
helpful.
[X] Slash Collapses Entire Thread
I use alpine for downloading email and archiving it, and for responding
to less urgent messages. I have found pine -> alpine to be the most
powerful email application, with the massive amount of filters and
filter values that I have, and, the quantity of messages that I have
stored (about 20-25 years of messages; about 20GB).
I use Thunderbird as a webmail application, for viewing messages in the
inbox, and, for responding to messages, when I want to make a response
within a short period of time, or immediately, and, for some simple and
quick junk filtering.
I do not like sorting by threads, I prefer sorting by arrival;
unfortunately, over time, pine -> alpine corrupted the sorting by
arrival, that previously existed, so, now, I use sorting by date.
Different people have different preferences; "horses for courses".
..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..............
