On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 01:09:37PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > So ATM I have no clue what I did because I've forgotten whatever I did to > make it work for bullseye, lost in the noise from doing 23 damned installs > before someone suggested I unplug all usb, but my key board and mouse are > wireless, so I left those buttons plugged it and did yet another install and > this one worked. I've since rebuilt my usb tree as it reaches like a weeping > willow to nearly every inch of the real estate here. All that re-install BS > caused by the installer silently finding a couple usb-serial adaptors and > ASSUMING I was blind and using brltty and orca. Has any of you ever tried to > use a computer whose keyboard response was delayed by nearly 2 seconds per > keystroke because its looking for a 1200 baud tty that isn't there, and then > yells the keystroke at you in some idea of a computer voice. Spend 2 weeks > trying to use a computer like that, and you'll have a new appreciation for > my level of frustration. >
Your experience led me to fixing someone else's problem on IRC. They were trying to install Debian for linuxcnc (but on an amd64 machine) and had the same problem because they'd left a serial lead plugged in so got brltty and orca. I advised them to reinstall to fix things but this time to undo the serial lead until the install was over. That worked fine for them and they were very happy. (It's the simple fix that I think I suggested that to you three times in the course and was ignored.) > It should have asked me if I wanted that crap but did not. > If you're deafblind and using a Braille reader - it looks for a serial tty. That's the only way it can work. It can't ask you first necessarily. > You have all claimed I missed it or told it to install that, but 23 damned > times? I'm sure its here someplace because all 24 times I filled in the > network details manually and was equally amazed when I still had a network > on the after install reboot. That FWIW, was a first. > > Everything works except printer sharing and I can't ask cups, my posts to > the cups list are apparently routed to /dev/null, so I come here for help > and all this dirty laundry gets drug out again. And again. And again. While > the question I asked is very carefully ignored. Unreal. > There are a bunch of cups manpages: there are lots of documents online. The people recommending you avahi/bonjour/zeroconf are recommending it because it works - for them and for 99.9% of people. Your system: your rules - but it doesn't always help us help you to solve the problems. There are reasons why we ask folk - in general on this list and in the FAQ - to provide information, to copy/paste log entries or what they're seeing on screen. We can't sit on your shoulder and watch what you've typed: we're all relying on guesswork much of the time. > Cheers, Gene Heskett. All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater
