On 11/4/23 02:19, Tim Woodall wrote:

Unfortunately, I don't seem to have that option any more. My cable modem
appears only to expose a layer 4 connection.

Previous version of my router appear to have a "modem mode" but that
doesn't exist in my version.


Here in Australia we have a national operator called NBN that runs its own country-wide network and provides the Network Termination Devices to every household and business.

Then we have a large number ISPs who connect to NBN and have a virtual circuit established between them and each individual customer. It is up to each ISP what services they provide. As a customer you are virtually connected to an ISP router and have no exposure to the network inbetween - which could be DSL or cable or fibre or even wireless.

What you see is what your ISP wants you to see. Some of them add an extra box between you and the NTD to make it harder (allegedly easier for them to manage it better, actually to lock you in).

You have the option of changing ISP to one that provides correct IP services. That may include chucking out any extra box and connecting direct to the NTD.

Here is something I found about the UK. OpenReach sounds very similar to NBN

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Here's an overview of the broadband options and market structure in the UK:

1.

   Openreach: Openreach, a subsidiary of BT Group, owns and operates
   the majority of the UK's fixed-line infrastructure, including copper
   lines, fiber-to-the-cabinet (FTTC) connections, and
   fiber-to-the-premises (FTTP) connections. Openreach is regulated to
   provide access to its infrastructure on a wholesale basis to other
   ISPs. This means that multiple ISPs can offer services to consumers
   using Openreach's infrastructure, with virtual circuits connecting
   customers to their chosen ISP. Major ISPs, such as BT, TalkTalk,
   Sky, and Plusnet, use this infrastructure.

2.

   Virgin Media: Virgin Media is the largest cable broadband provider
   in the UK, operating its own network separate from Openreach's
   infrastructure. Virgin Media's network is based on Hybrid
   Fibre-Coaxial (HFC) technology, which delivers high-speed internet
   using a combination of fiber-optic and coaxial cables. Virgin Media
   is not obligated to provide wholesale access to its network, meaning
   customers can only access services directly from Virgin Media.

3.

   Smaller ISPs and Alternative Networks: There are also smaller ISPs
   and alternative network providers that offer broadband services,
   including full-fiber networks, fixed wireless access (FWA), and
   satellite broadband. Some of these providers, like CityFibre,
   Hyperoptic, and Gigaclear, have built their own infrastructure in
   certain areas, while others lease capacity from Openreach or other
   network operators.

4.

   Mobile Broadband: Major mobile network operators, such as EE,
   Vodafone, O2, and Three, offer mobile broadband services using 4G
   and 5G technologies. These services can be used as a primary
   broadband connection, especially in rural areas where fixed-line
   broadband speeds may be limited.

In summary, the UK broadband market is a mix of infrastructure providers and ISPs, with Openreach's wholesale model playing a significant role in ensuring competition among ISPs. Additionally, Virgin Media, smaller ISPs, and mobile network operators provide alternatives to the Openreach infrastructure.

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