OK, I did it. i didn't wait for the freeze to happen randomly because it may take time, i tried to open zoom which always causes a freeze, It started only in the past few days and after a full-upgrade, i use zoom regularly and there was no problem before the last full-upgrade. its debian testing. I opened zoom with super key, search for zoom and enter. the computer freezes immediately.
there was nothing in dmesg or /var/log/messages before the freeze, this is what was in journalctl and top, i don't know how to tell if there is something suspicious. journalctl Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.Settings.SearchProvider' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.Contacts.SearchProvider' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.Nautilus' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.Calculator.SearchProvider' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.Characters' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.clocks' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.seahorse.Application' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gnome.Terminal' unit='gnome-terminal-server.service' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Settings.SearchProvider' Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Calculator.SearchProvider' Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.clocks' Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.seahorse.Application' Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian nautilus[9317]: Connecting to org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian systemd[3253]: Starting GNOME Terminal Server... Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Nautilus' Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Contacts.SearchProvider' Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Characters' Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian nautilus[9317]: g_hash_table_foreach: assertion 'hash_table != NULL' failed Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.DiskUtility' requested by ':1.170' (uid=1000 pid=9317 comm="/usr/bin/nautilus --gapplication-service") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.DiskUtility' Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian gnome-character[9321]: JS LOG: Characters Application started Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Terminal' Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian systemd[3253]: Started GNOME Terminal Server. Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.seahorse.Application' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian gnome-shell[3523]: Received error from D-Bus search provider org.gnome.Terminal.desktop: Gio.DBusError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Object does not exist at path “/org/gnome/Terminal/SearchProvider” Jan 30 00:01:49 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.seahorse.Application' Jan 30 00:01:50 xps-debian gnome-shell[3523]: Received error from D-Bus search provider org.gnome.Terminal.desktop: Gio.DBusError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Object does not exist at path “/org/gnome/Terminal/SearchProvider” Jan 30 00:01:50 xps-debian PackageKit[2312]: resolve transaction /32688_aaecaebb from uid 1000 finished with cancelled after 323ms Jan 30 00:01:50 xps-debian gnome-software[4034]: internal error: failed, but no error code: cancelled Jan 30 00:01:50 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Activating service name='org.gnome.seahorse.Application' requested by ':1.35' (uid=1000 pid=3523 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell") Jan 30 00:01:50 xps-debian gnome-shell[3523]: Received error from D-Bus search provider org.gnome.Terminal.desktop: Gio.DBusError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Object does not exist at path “/org/gnome/Terminal/SearchProvider” Jan 30 00:01:50 xps-debian dbus-daemon[3297]: [session uid=1000 pid=3297] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.seahorse.Application' Jan 30 00:01:50 xps-debian PackageKit[2312]: resolve transaction /32689_acdbdcac from uid 1000 finished with cancelled after 311ms Jan 30 00:01:50 xps-debian gnome-software[4034]: internal error: failed, but no error code: cancelled Jan 30 00:01:51 xps-debian PackageKit[2312]: resolve transaction /32690_beddabed from uid 1000 finished with success after 294ms Jan 30 00:01:52 xps-debian systemd[3253]: Started Application launched by gnome-shell. top 9323 shalom 20 0 389416 37848 28308 R 48.8 0.1 0:01.47 gnome-clocks 2312 root 20 0 377972 54280 18304 S 30.9 0.1 0:33.72 packagekitd 3523 shalom 20 0 6970776 620328 446956 S 23.3 0.9 1:14.52 gnome-shell 5466 shalom 20 0 5289772 709372 225944 S 21.9 1.1 4:27.93 firefox-esr 9321 shalom 20 0 4616308 183336 94060 S 17.3 0.3 0:00.52 gnome-character 4034 shalom 20 0 730912 83672 49864 S 13.0 0.1 0:08.00 gnome-software 9315 shalom 20 0 550888 40832 23944 S 12.6 0.1 0:00.38 gnome-contacts- 8182 shalom 20 0 2620200 219800 98688 S 11.0 0.3 0:56.39 Isolated Web Co 9402 shalom 20 0 359068 35996 26500 S 10.6 0.1 0:00.32 gnome-disks 9326 shalom 20 0 398104 36068 28484 S 8.6 0.1 0:00.26 gnome-terminal- 6114 shalom 20 0 2517920 183140 102408 S 7.3 0.3 1:21.44 Isolated Web Co 9317 shalom 20 0 899976 49148 35352 S 6.6 0.1 0:00.20 nautilus 9313 shalom 20 0 342312 30380 22696 S 3.0 0.0 0:00.09 gnome-control-c 3297 shalom 20 0 11128 6880 4340 S 2.3 0.0 0:00.67 dbus-daemon 4050 shalom 20 0 699744 78740 58388 S 2.0 0.1 0:06.61 psensor 4400 shalom 20 0 1784672 123896 58556 S 2.0 0.2 0:20.43 Xwayland 3486 shalom 20 0 770772 58212 33768 S 1.7 0.1 0:00.57 goa-daemon 9319 shalom 20 0 413604 24504 19536 S 1.3 0.0 0:00.04 gnome-calculato 3404 shalom 39 19 701428 32428 19492 S 1.0 0.0 0:00.57 tracker-miner-f 3881 shalom 20 0 760680 48000 26792 S 1.0 0.1 0:00.16 evolution-addre 7480 shalom 20 0 2488348 141428 97648 S 1.0 0.2 0:25.34 Isolated Web Co 7483 shalom 20 0 2469872 117060 90304 S 1.0 0.2 0:10.56 Isolated Web Co 7985 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 1.0 0.0 0:02.77 kworker/0:1-rcu_gp 8242 shalom 20 0 2461252 107204 83560 S 1.0 0.2 0:00.39 Isolated Web Co 81 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.7 0.0 0:03.03 ksoftirqd/13 3925 shalom 20 0 312436 14300 6872 S 0.7 0.0 0:01.44 ibus-daemon 4026 shalom 20 0 4493304 523692 291540 S 0.7 0.8 0:06.59 quiterss 4112 shalom 20 0 784084 120324 87532 S 0.7 0.2 0:10.79 terminator 15 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.3 0.0 0:00.55 rcu_preempt 103 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.3 0.0 0:00.76 kworker/u32:9-i915 127 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.3 0.0 0:03.25 kworker/13:1-events 1203 message+ 20 0 12064 7240 4228 S 0.3 0.0 0:01.36 dbus-daemon 1211 root 20 0 221760 8296 3440 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.20 rsyslogd On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 8:02 PM <rhkra...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, January 29, 2023 01:59:51 AM Shalom Ben-Zvii Kazaz wrote: > > There is no ssh when its frozen > > Hmm, I'm a little confused, and maybe you are, also. > > I think the intent of the advice was to log into the frozen laptop from > another computer / device, using ssh *while the frozen laptop is not > frozen*. > > Further, on that other device, run a command like top or journalctrl -f, > and > then wait (or cause) the laptop to freeze. > > Then examine top or such on the working computer to look for clues as to > why > the frozen laptop has frozen. > > (I may be confused. ;-) > > -- > rhk > > (sig revised 20221206) > > If you reply: snip, snip, and snip again; leave attributions; avoid HTML; > avoid top posting; and keep it "on list". (Oxford comma (and semi-colon) > included at no charge.) If you revise the topic, change the Subject: > line. > If you change the topic, start a new thread. > > Writing is often meant for others to read and understand (legal documents > excepted?) -- make it easier for your reader by various means, including > liberal use of whitespace (short paragraphs, separated by whitespace / > blank > lines) and minimal use of (obscure?) jargon, abbreviations, acronyms, and > references. > > If someone has already responded to a question, decide whether any > response > you add will be helpful or not ... > > A picture is worth a thousand words. A video (or "audio"): not so much -- > divide by 10 for each minute of video (or audio) or create a transcript > and > edit it to 10% of the original. > > A speaker who uses ahhs, ums, or such may have a real physical or mental > disability, or may be showing disrespect for his listeners by not properly > preparing in advance and thinking before speaking. (Remember Cicero who > did > not have enough time to write a short missive.) (That speaker might have > been > "trained" to do this by being interrupted often if he pauses.) > > A radio (or TV) station which broadcasts speakers with high pitched voices > (or > very low pitched / gravelly voices) (which older people might not be able > to > hear properly) disrespects its listeners. Likewise if it broadcasts > extraneous or disturbing sounds (like gunfire or crying), or broadcasts > speakers using their native language (with or without an overdubbed > translation). > > A person who writes a sig this long probably has issues and disrespects > (and > offends) a large number of readers. ;-) > ' > >