On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 1:57 PM <pe...@easthope.ca> wrote: > David, > > Thanks for replying. > > From: David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 21:46:39 -0600 > > What, you expect someone to obtain an i386 machine just to replicate > > that it's slow? And make it crash in some unspecified manner? > > Definitely not for the problems with Firefox. > > Yes, I'd hope that at least one person maintaining network software > would have a 32 bit machine and perform some tests there. After all, > communication is fundamental and the title is "Debian; The Universal > operating system". https://www.debian.org/ > > > > ... what changes in functionality? The Web site of my credit > > > union works as it did five years ago. > > > What's that got to do with Firefox? OK, it's good that the CU hasn't > > run with every fad that some web developers seem to want, ... > > The subject I intended was Web functionality. The reference to the > Web site of my credit union was illustrative; not the primary subject. > I shouldn't have assumed that was obvious. > > > Coo, look at that. > > This meaning? > > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/coo > Etymology 2 > Adjective > coo (comparative more coo, superlative most coo) > (slang) Cool. > > Yes, "coo rating" is a problem for the Web. In North America "cool > rating" is the more likely expression. > > > Where's your evidence that Firefox 102.6 is not ready? You haven't > > posted anything specific, and your criticism seems more like a whine, ... > > Yes, a whine against the Web. Not a whine about readiness of Firefox. > The Web has become a resource abyss. Debian can't fix it. No single > entity can fix it. At least Debian can acknowledge the problem and > allocate some attention and resources to mitigation. Debian has > influence. It can advocate to help developers and users avoid the > abyss. Might also be ways for software to help. > > > I ran FF on a 500MB i386 laptop to the end of buster, ... >
Debian dropped support for i386, i486 and Pentium I a while ago. Pentium II and newer are currently still supported. > > I now run my i386 laptop just for its portability. I have eight > > xterms open in fvwm, and use it to set things going on the four > > or five other machines scattered through the house (all 64-bit). > > Good. One machine not in ewaste. > > > I'm not sure why you run Firefox on 32-bits: any particular reason, > > or just for old times sake? > > Aside from a tablet, haven't purchased a new computer. Around > 1990 purchased a new system board which went into a discarded chassis. > Purchased three used machines since. Recently given two 64 bit machines > and haven't them commissioned yet. > > > You don't appear to have posted what the spec of /your/ i386 machine > > is: in particular, how much memory and how much swap? > > me@joule:/home/root# hwinfo --cpu > 01: None 00.0: 10103 CPU > [Created at cpu.465] > Unique ID: rdCR.j8NaKXDZtZ6 > Hardware Class: cpu > Arch: Intel > Vendor: "GenuineIntel" > Model: 15.2.7 "Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz" > Features: > fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,ps > > e36,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,ht,tm,pbe,pebs,bts,cpuid,cid,xtpr,pti > Clock: 2393 MHz > BogoMips: 4787.65 > Cache: 512 kb > Units/Processor: 1 > Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown > > me@joule:/home/root# hwinfo --memory > 01: None 00.0: 10102 Main Memory > [Created at memory.74] > Unique ID: rdCR.CxwsZFjVASF > Hardware Class: memory > Model: "Main Memory" > Memory Range: 0x00000000-0xe4c60fff (rw) > Memory Size: 3 GB + 512 MB > Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown > > me@joule:/home/root# lsblk | grep sda3 > sda3 8:3 0 1G 0 part [SWAP] > > Swap should be larger. Might do that after a 64 bit machine is > running. > > Thx, ... P. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > <http://voice.google.com/calls?a=nc,%2B17789515147> > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope > > -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀
