On Mon, Dec 26, 2022, 7:43 PM Albretch Mueller <lbrt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Athenians in a crucial moment of their history invented "democracy" > as some specific social technologies in order to ensure openness and > conscious participation of all members of society; False. Not even half the male population in ancient Athens were citizens. Even the "police" (from the Greek "polis", city) were slaves owned by Athens itself, not an individual. Of course no female could be a citizen. when they saw > themselves imminently enslaved by the hugely more powerful Persian > empire (the worldsonlysuperpower of those days, they were also "good > Christians" who heard God telling them things and thought to be their > False. The ancient Persians worshipped Zoroaster, not the God of the Hebrews/Christians. Compare that to what happened during the Snowden revelations when > gringos realized that their own governments was spying on their > supposedly "private" lives and keeping dossiers of everyone way more > intrusively than the stasi, the KGB, ... all those "un-American" > That information was revealed in the early 1970s by the Watergate hearings and the Church Commitee in the US congress, and by the legal actions against the FBI and its counter intelligence program. It's nothing new, but plenty of Americans forgot about that or never knew. And lots of Americans like those unconstitutional government programs too. > lbrtchx > >
