On Mon 12 Dec 2022 at 14:11:38 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> There is a terrible echo in here, mbox is a pita I'd druther not have
> to deal with. Some of the screwups I've had are probably directly
> blamable on tbird using mbox for its database.

You don't have to, because mutt will handle mbox, mmdf, mh or maildir.

> I learn best in the reading room, reading a pdf, but debians version
> of mutt is html only,

You wrote this two hours after I posted the text version's
filename in my reply to your post further up this thread. Look:

  $ ls -l /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 162988 Apr 23  2022 /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz

> how the heck do you print that?

  $ zcat /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz | paps --font='FreeMono 10' 
--left-margin=40 --top-margin=40 --paper "letter" | ps2pdf - - >| 
/tmp/mutt-manual.pdf
  $ 

or even

  $ zcat /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz | paps --font='FreeMono 14' 
--left-margin=40 --top-margin=40 --paper "letter" --landscape | ps2pdf - - >| 
/tmp/mutt-manual.pdf
  $ 

which would consume a little over seven quires.
But WV probably has sufficient trees.

Cheers,
David.

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