On Sat Dec, 3, 2022 at 04:03, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 02 Dec 2022 at 21:33:45 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> > FWIW:
> >
> > $ apt-cache policy udev
> > udev:
> > Installed: 252.1-1
> > Candidate: 252.1-1
> > Version table:
> > *** 252.1-1 900
> > 900 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
> > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> > 247.3-7+deb11u1 800
> > 800 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
> >
> > IOW, this version isn't only in sid, it's also in testing.
>
> Yes, hence my comment on potential interactions between different
> packages. The OP mentioned udev, but in their OP they talked about
> manually restarting systemd services. I was under the impression
> that systemd and udev are upgraded in step, and AFAICT (as I'm not
> running bookworm or sid), they've had half a dozen upgrades in the
> last two months. Plenty of scope for interactions there.
>
I run sid and am usually able to resolve the problems by myself.
The fact is that during some upgrades X gets killed unexpectedly,
without any warning, and on the console I see that some services
do not start. I usually reboot but it's annoying; a couple of kills ago
I tried to manually restart the failed services, and it's very time
consuming.
I still don't know *what upgrade(s)* kill(s) X. I have suspected
logind, libpam and udev, but I don't know for sure. I'll try udevadm
monitor as you suggested.
Hence I asked if anybody else experienced the same behaviour,
and implicitly what I could do to prevent those X kills.
> Anyway, with my not having had similar problems, and receiving
> confirmation that I'm not running the same revision, I'm not the
> one to help troubleshoot this. (Boy, that's a load of negatives.)
>
Thanks for your help! That's a positive!
Loïc