On Sat Dec, 3, 2022 at 04:03, David Wright wrote:

> On Fri 02 Dec 2022 at 21:33:45 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> > FWIW:
> >
> > $ apt-cache policy udev
> > udev:
> >   Installed: 252.1-1
> >   Candidate: 252.1-1
> >   Version table:
> >  *** 252.1-1 900
> >         900 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
> >         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> >      247.3-7+deb11u1 800
> >         800 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
> >
> > IOW, this version isn't only in sid, it's also in testing.
>
> Yes, hence my comment on potential interactions between different
> packages. The OP mentioned udev, but in their OP they talked about
> manually restarting systemd services. I was under the impression
> that systemd and udev are upgraded in step, and AFAICT (as I'm not
> running bookworm or sid), they've had half a dozen upgrades in the
> last two months. Plenty of scope for interactions there.
>

     I run sid and am usually able to resolve the problems by myself.
  The fact is that during some upgrades X gets killed unexpectedly,
  without any warning, and on the console I see that some services
  do not start. I usually reboot but it's annoying; a couple of kills ago
  I tried to manually restart the failed services, and it's very time
  consuming.
    I still don't know *what upgrade(s)* kill(s) X. I have suspected
  logind, libpam and udev, but I don't know for sure. I'll try udevadm
  monitor as you suggested.

     Hence I asked if anybody else experienced the same behaviour,
  and implicitly what I could do to prevent those X kills.


> Anyway, with my not having had similar problems, and receiving
> confirmation that I'm not running the same revision, I'm not the
> one to help troubleshoot this. (Boy, that's a load of negatives.)
>

     Thanks for your help! That's a positive!

         Loïc

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