Can I run macOS apps on ravynOS?

No - not yet. This is a major goal and we're working towards it. So far,
some trivial "Hello World" binaries in C and Objective-C have been compiled
on macOS Big Sur and the resulting Mach-O binaries ran on ravynOS using our
in-dev Hybrid linker without any Frameworks or tools from macOS. Source
code of some simple Cocoa AppKit-based applications have been built on
ravynOS and run as native applications (e.g. Install ravynOS.app). While
this is all very exciting, you will have to wait a bit longer to run
Photoshop or Xcode.

Il giorno mar 22 nov 2022 alle ore 19:26 Andrew M.A. Cater <
amaca...@einval.com> ha scritto:

> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 07:09:32PM +0100, Mario Marietto wrote:
> > I've found it : https://airyx.org/
> >
>
> Which has just decided to write a new GUI for itself - because it can.
> Without using a pre-existing GUI. Oh, and it's renamed itself.
>
> > Il giorno mar 22 nov 2022 alle ore 19:06 Mario Marietto <
> > marietto2...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > There is a fresh project, a couple of years old and in development,
> about
> > > a linux distro,if I remember correctly,or maybe it is based on
> BSD,with the
> > > goal to run the apple's software and it has the graphical interface
> which
> > > looks the same as the MacOSX. Does anyone remember the name ? The
> advantage
> > > is to not infringe any apple's copyright for sure. I'm not sure but if
> the
> > > system is different from the MacOSX but it offers the advantage to run
> the
> > > original apple's tools,is this a copyright infringement ?
> > >
>
> If it looks sufficiently like MacOSX - it infringes Apple's copyright.
> Apple
> have had cases based on button shape before now - and they have attack dog
> lawyers. Various other Linux distros have produced something that looks a
> litle like MacOS - if it gets too similar, Apple get *very* twitchy.
>
> > > Il giorno mar 22 nov 2022 alle ore 18:52 Miles Fidelman <
> > > mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> ha scritto:
> > >
> > >> Well... that would basically be MacOS, or a GUI that looks like MacOS
> > >> running on another BSD.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mario Marietto wrote:
> > >>
> > >> How difficult will it be to create a BSD system with the look and
> feel of
> > >> the MacOSX ? I mean,not only based on aesthetics,but more
> structural,but
> > >> not so much structural to incite the apple's lawyers.
> > >>
>
> See above: it's not straightforward. At the point when you want to do this,
> you might as well be running a straight copy of BSD - and in every
> likelihood,
> it will never run Mac applications.
>
> > >> Il giorno mar 22 nov 2022 alle ore 17:41 Jeffrey Walton <
> > >> noloa...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> > >>
> > >>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 11:10 AM Mario Marietto <
> marietto2...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > How much FreeBSD code is inside the MacOSX code today ?
> > >>>
> > >>> That's a good question. The Darwin kernel is XNU. But a lot of
> > >>> userland code is BSD. In fact, a lot of Apple's man pages say (or
> used
> > >>> to say) they are for BSD. See attached for the codesign man page.
> > >>>
> > >>> I remember around the time that Apple adopted the Mach kernel. They
> > >>> finally got a memory manager! No more "It's not my fault" and error
> > >>> code 8 (iirc). I am kind of surprised I can't find a YouTube video
> > >>> with an old Mac saying it...
> > >>>
> > >>> Also
> > >>>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/1mix5h/id_like_the_differences_in_darwin_and_freebsd/
> > >>> and see https://github.com/apple/darwin-xnu .
> > >>>
> > >>> Jeff
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
>
> With every good wish, as ever,
>
> Andy Cater
> > >> --
> > >> Mario.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> > >> In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra
> > >>
> > >> Theory is when you know everything but nothing works.
> > >> Practice is when everything works but no one knows why.
> > >> In our lab, theory and practice are combined:
> > >> nothing works and no one knows why.  ... unknown
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mario.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mario.
>
>

-- 
Mario.

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