People of debian-user :) This thread does seem to be degenerating slightly into accusations and name-calling, justified or not. Without prejudice to anyone: please may I remind you that debian-user and all Debian lists and IRC channels are subject to the Debian Code of Conduct.
It would be very much appreciated if disagreements could be resolved constructively and in a positive way. Ad hominem attacks don't help anyone here. Taking a breath / walking away from the keyboard for half a day might also help get a sense of perspective in any mailing list opinion difference. (And yes, I know about https://xkcd.com/386/ and the difficulty that brings). With every good wish, as ever, Andy Cater [For and on behalf of the Debian Community Team]