Hi David, thank you for spending your time to ponder and write about my FF problem. I try to answer some of your question below.
On Donnerstag, 8. September 2022 11:27:01 -04 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 07 Sep 2022 at 17:52:09 (-0400), Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > On Mittwoch, 7. September 2022 16:23:28 -04 Alex King wrote: > > > On 8/09/22 04:16, Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ wrote: > > > > I admit that I usually have ~ 70 tabs open. > > > > FF does not blank all, just most of them. > > > > Then I have to reload the pages and enter all information again > > > > if > > > > the pages contain forms like snail-mail tracking, tracking of > > > > packages, tracking of processes with the local communications > > > > state > > > > agency, following geomagnetic storms, RF-Propagation, blogs etc > > > > etc. > > So are we to understand that an even greater majority of your tabs > have information entered by you? > Yes that is so, but it is no sensitive information. For example I use to have this dynamic page open. https://www.dxmaps.com/spots/mapg.php?Lan=E&Frec=50&ML=M&HF=N[1] If it shows up (out of cache) it sits on 'VHF & up' and on '6m' I change it to 'LF - HF' and '10m'. It then updates the information (spots and daylight) automatically. With this static page, when (or if) it is shown out of cache I Ctrl-R and it does show the updated information of DX-expeditions. That is only necessary once a dayhttps:// www.ng3k.com/Misc/adxo.html[2] But when FF decides to (or stumbles over its feet) blank the page I have to Ctrl-R several times until the page 'stays put'. Several times because if this happens, FF does it again and again for 3 to 4 times. On this government page I used to enter my code 'Código de Expediente' once a day and then, by entering the simple captcha text, am able to see how far my document/form has advanced in the beaurocratic process and in which department it is stuck right now.https://staf-servicios.conatel.gov.py/ConatelJavaEnvironment/servlet/ com.conatel.consultaexp[3] But if FF blanks the page I have to reload and enter the code and then enter another captcha text. Thus FF is causing me more clickety-click-work than necessary. > > > > My time is too valuable to waste it reloading and reloading web > > > > pages > > > > again and again. > > > > It happens with dynamic pages and with static pages. There is no > > > > consistency at all. > > > > > > > > I looked into the FF settings for a setup - but no - there is > > > > nothing > > > > about this behaviour. > > > > > > > > OK, so which browser will I now use instead of Firefox? > > > > > > A couple of FF Extensions you might benefit from: > > > > > > Auto Tab Discard: although it does the opposite of what you want, > > > (I.e. the purpose is to discard or "unload" tabs,) it gives a UI > > > into > > > the settings for when tabs are discarded. (Although I'm on FF > > > 91.13.0esr, and I don't know if it works on FF 104.) > > > > > > Textarea Cache: Allows to save automatically the content in a > > > text > > > input field. Great for retrieving text you wrote into a website, > > > e.g. if the submission failed for some reason. Not sure if it > > > stores text from text input fields on discarded pages or not... > > Does it know the distinguish fields that might contain sensitive > information (like a password)? It does and, provided the page is shown at all, this page used to be shown after startup exactly as I set it. But when FF decides to blank the page I have to reload and adjust the size of the map and the focus again. Also have to click the buttons to get the information of the desired band (range of frequencies) and the modes of modulation. https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html[4] Tedious to say the least ... especially if this happens several times. > > Opera has a setup option "Snooze inactive tabs to save memory" which > > can be disabled. I didn't find anything similar in the settings of > > FF but > > there is in about:config > > browser.tabs.min_inactive_duration_before_unload > > I am testing this right now with a higer number of seconds (I > > believe that it is set in seconds). > > I just rotated through all ~150 of my FF tabs, and at the end of that, > there are about a dozen FF processes running (top calls them Web > Content). I noticed some of the tabs date from back in March. I > suspect many of the pages redisplayed themselves from cached files > rather than downloading the content again, but I'm just guessing. The pages are first redisplayed from cache - that is right. Dynamic pages then are updated automatically - at least that was the case until this problem started to appear. Static pages have to be reloaded manually. But because my individual setup of that page is retained a simple Ctrl-R or click on the reload button solves that. When the page has been unloaded the tab just appears blank but the URL still appears in the . When I Ctrl-R it loads the page from the website, wich Ctrl-R is supposed to do. There is no shortcut or button to display a page from cache. > > Weird thing is that FF tends to unload the tabs agressively when > > starting to use the browser but later when I've gone through the > > process of reloading the pages and filling in requested data, > > adjusting the focus of maps and whatnot *several times* then it > > seems to succumb to the will of the user and maintain the pages
