On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 11:44, Chuck Zmudzinski <brchu...@netscape.net> wrote: > On 9/7/22 7:45 PM, David wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 02:49, Chuck Zmudzinski <brchu...@netscape.net> > > wrote: > > > On 9/7/2022 12:13 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > > > I use the tigervnc-standalone-server which is in the Debian packages > > > > archives. I use it only on a trusted LAN network so I don't need an > > > > encrypted vnc connection either, and I can access it remotely from the > > > > Internet by connecting to the LAN using a VPN (I use strongswan/IKEv2 > > > > for the VPN server). The main configuration files are at ~/.vnc, and > > > > there are tools to configure it such as vncpasswd. The most important > > > > configuration file is ~/.vnc/xstartup, where you launch your DE or > > > > window manager of your choice. > > > > > > You can launch the server from a terminal logged in as an ordinary user > > > > and the server runs as an ordinary user in the background so after you > > > > start the server in a terminal you can exit that terminal session. > > > > > Actually, you *should* exit that terminal session, especially if it is > > > a terminal window running in the same kind of session (gnome, lxde, etc) > > > and as the same user that you plan to run in the VNC server. This is > > > another limitation of the tigervnc-standalone-server: it does not connect > > > to an already running X11 session but instead launches a new session as > > > an ordinary user as specified in ~/.vnc/xstartup. > > > > > I have found that if I try to run two sessions as the same user, one over > > > VNC and one on the local desktop, it does not work too well, at least > > > with the current version of gnome, probably because there is not good > > > enough separation of the various user processes that gnome starts for > > > each user session. > > > > Hi, > > > > Regarding your final sentence, I wonder if installing dbus-x11 instead of > > dbus-user-session would improve that situation. > > > > Because of what I read in the 'Description' in the output of > > 'apt show dbus-user-session'. > > > > I have both dbus-user-session and dbus-x11 installed: > > chuckz@debian:~$ dpkg-query -l dbus* > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend > |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) > ||/ Name Version Architecture Description > +++-=======================-============-============-================================================================= > ii dbus 1.12.20-2 amd64 simple interprocess > messaging system (daemon and utilities) > un dbus-bin <none> <none> (no description > available) > un dbus-daemon <none> <none> (no description > available) > un dbus-session-bus <none> <none> (no description > available) > un dbus-session-bus-common <none> <none> (no description > available) > un dbus-system-bus <none> <none> (no description > available) > un dbus-system-bus-common <none> <none> (no description > available) > ii dbus-user-session 1.12.20-2 amd64 simple interprocess > messaging system (systemd --user integration) > ii dbus-x11 1.12.20-2 amd64 simple interprocess > messaging system (X11 deps) > > I don't know how systemd handles the case when one user has two gnome > sessions running at the same time or if it is possible to make it behave > better in that case. I also don't know if installing dbus-session-bus or > dbus-system-bus might help. If anyone has any tips to improve the way it runs > in that case, I could try them out.
The 'Description' to which I referred you says: To retain dbus' traditional session semantics, in which login sessions are artificially isolated from each other, remove this package and install dbus-x11 instead Note: "remove this package".
