On 2022-03-11 at 16:07, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> Another limitation of XWayland as I've heard it described (by the
>> same person on whose statements the previous paragraph is based, as
>> well as in online discussions related to XWeston, below), as
>> compared to a full X server: where you can (and, in fact, usually
>> need to) run a window manager on top of an X server, I'm given to
>> understand that you cannot run a window manager on top of XWayland.
>> Instead, the window manager needs to be implemented as a Wayland 
>> compositor, and you then run XWayland inside of that. (I have not
>> actually tried to do this myself, for reasons which I'm about to
>> get into, so I may have some of the details wrong.)
> 
> OK, that stinks, I'm super-happy with my WM and it's configured and
> all. See? How do they expect anyone to switch to a supposedly
> superior solution when there are all these obstacles and limitations?
> If it is just about replacing one protocol by another why can't that
> be done for WMs as well?

There may be multiple reasons, but one of them is that the feature set
supported by Wayland (and/or the associated protocol, if any) is not a
superset of the feature set supported by the X protocol.

That said, you may still find value in XWeston, and I'd be interested to
hear reports from anyone who tries it - the more obscure and niche the
window manager they try it with, the better.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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