On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 10:14, David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: > On Mon 14 Feb 2022 at 00:40:11 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > > Felix Miata composed on 2022-02-13 23:53 (UTC-0500): > > > David Wright composed on 2022-02-10 09:27 (UTC-0600): > > >> On Thu 10 Feb 2022 at 03:39:26 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> > The apt*/dpkg system generally seems rather resistant to showing uninstalled > > package versions, except for the aptitude "extension". > Come to think of it, I don't think I can help at all, beyond > suggesting that you regularly download the names of the new > kernels that appear in the pool itself. > Yesterday you posted that: "apt-cache and aptitude don't seem to know that > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-5.16.0-trunk-amd64-unsigned_5.16.4-1~exp1_amd64.deb > exists." > AIUI, your apt* tools can only find what's indexed in dists/ rather > than anything that happens to be in the pool, but I'm not familiar > with the policy issues (as a non-developer). I don't think dpkg > makes that its business at all. > BTW the red line (attached) indicates that "trunk" doesn't appear > on the page. (It's a term I don't understand.) I found an explanation of "trunk" in Section 5.2.1 here: https://kernel-team.pages.debian.net/kernel-handbook/ch-versions.html I don't know what I'm talking about, but it looks like "trunk" packages are regularly added into NEW queue (and experimental repo?): https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=trunk&DEFAULTOP=and&B=Gdebian-kernel&SORT=0&HITSPERPAGE=50&xP=trunk I imagine that they might be short-lived packages because they might be quickly superceded with a later ABI name when they transition to unstable. Just guessing, because I might learn something when someone corrects me. I don't know much and struggle to remember details in this area because I don't need to regularly think about it.