On 12/18/21 13:34, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Am Freitag, 10. Dezember 2021, 13:25:17 CET schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez: >> [...] >> All the hate in this thread is really very tiresome. I'm not directing >> this specifically to you, Christian, rather speaking of the general tone >> of this thread. Discussing alternatives for users who are concerned >> about still being on FF 78 ESR and who would like options for running >> the latest ESR is fine. But bashing on the people who have been working >> literally for months on sorting out all of the issues (and there are >> many) to bring the latest FF ESR into Debian stable/oldstable is not >> productive. Nor is it productive to point at Debian and other distros >> and say things like "they do it, how come Debian can't?" Each distro >> has slightly different objectives, operating frameworks, etc. Debian's >> goals are different from Ubuntu's goals, are different from Fedora's >> goals, are different from Mozilla upstream's goals. Let's just accept >> that (or work constructively to adjust the goals to better suit you) and >> support the people doing the work. > > Hi Roberto, > > thanks and I agree with all you wrote. But also be aware that not all critics > is bashing and not everybody has the skills and/or time to actively help to > backport the necessary packages. I do not intend to bash anybody, I > understand > that Debian is based on volunteer work (which is tremendous), and I hope that > you consider the feedback as constructive. > > What I am missing is transparency, but it might be my fault that I just do > not > find the right information. What would help me feeling more comfortable with > the situation is > > 1) a statement which is informing the users through a Debian channel about > the > thread before that appears on Linux Blogs/news channels. Even now I have not > seen any comment on this topic. I am subscribed to the what I think are the > relevant Debian channels for Debian users (and some more). > > 2) an estimate for the ETA. That would it make easier for me to decide if I > can just wait for the update or if I need to work on another solution myself. >
I also think that if Debian project cannot handle with particular security issue on time then Debian users should be informed. Kind regards Georgi
