On Fri 05 Nov 2021 at 17:02:01 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 04:04:17PM +0000, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 05 Nov 2021 at 13:43:29 +0000, Tixy wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 07:47 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 7:21 AM Greg Wooledge <g...@wooledge.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon > > > > > > installation? > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > Right now, for the regular official installers (and also for the > > > > > unofficial installer with non-free firmware), that default task > > > > > happens > > > > > to be GNOME. > > > > > > > > > > With the "Live" installers, the default is different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if I may ask: Why is it different? If there is a reason or two. > > > > > > Guessing here... because a live version already has a desktop > > > environment on the disk, so it make sense to default to installing that > > > one. E.g. if you choose, say, the XFCE live iso, it would default to > > > XFCE not Gnome. Would be a bit perverse otherwise. > > > > I rather thought the Live images contained a copy of d-i but am not > > going to download an ISO to refresh my menory. I will offer > > > > > > https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/customizing-installer.en.html > > > > I'd see it as a bit unusual for this copy to differ from the regular d-i. > > > > A few things: > > 1. GNOME is only the default on AMD64 / i386 - on some of the ARM variants, > it's still XFCE, I think.
Fine, but this is not, IMHO, the OP's concern. He is using amd64/i386. Nevertheless, it is something to be aware of. > 2. XFCE _was_ the default for a one CD install until Buster - it's now > too big for one CD so there is no longer a CD which will install as > single desktop by default. Correct, but I do not think we are into CD vs DVD in the OP's issue. This is something to discard from our thinking. > 3. The live CDs are designed so that you download the one with the desktop > you want. The "standard" one installs a minimum Debian with standard packages > and no gui. OK, but the relevance to the OP's issue is obscure. Does it need to taken into account for the issue raised? > 4. Live CD install is not guaranteed to be the same as the traditional > Debian installer. Calamares is very significantly different. Live CD/DVD is > maintained by a different libe CD team and not by the Debian media team. Ah! Calamares. It alters the way tasksel behaves in d-i? Heaven help us! Is that is what is meant when it is claimed by Greg Wooledg: With the "Live" installers, the default is different"? Calamares introduces a new ball game? Alejandro Colomar's observations are quite clear and reprducible. It would be expected he would be along later to expand on them. -- Brian.
