On Thu 30 Sep 2021 at 19:33:45 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 05:48:19PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > At least that's how I learn. > > > > > > > That is not me. > > People tend to be different. That makes things... interesting.
That's the bit where advising a user is folloed by How do I copy and paste? or What's a terminal? Interesting? Ever done user-support? > > I will not encourage anyone to set themselves up for failure. > > I might be unpolished, and you expressed before that I am rude. > > Wait a sec. If I did that (if you say so I take it at face value) > please, accept my apologies. > > > However I think most people benefit from a realistic point > > of their own capabilities. > > I just do not think throwing somebody from a ship in the middle > > of the ocean and thinking he/she will learn to swim. I rather send > > them to the kiddie pool, no matter how offended they are. > > > > And it is not the case that I do not want them to learn. Quite the > > opposite is true. > > I I wouldn't propose "throwing somebody from a ship". But if > someone wants to jump, I'd tell them what they can expect > instead of just telling them "don't do it". And have a lifebuoy > at hand. Passenger: I've had enough. I am going to jump. tomas: Can you swim? Passenger: No. tomas: You will drown, but I will throw you a lifebuoy. Passenger: Will that help? tomas: Not really. We are in Artic waters. You will succumb to hypothermia within minites. Passenger: Can you help to alleviate that? tomas: Hold on 10 minutes; I'll get you a duvet. Passenger: That is very civil of you. Will it keep me alive? tomas: For a time. But I'll be cold tonight! Don't forget; it's my duvet. Passenge: Does the duvet have the Debian logo on it? tomas: No, just roses. Passenge: Do you think you could get one with a petunia pattern? tomas: This boat does not support such patterns. Passenge: When I sailed with the Gentoo line they ofered all flower patterns. tomas: The packages they offer to users are different. Passenger: I wish I had used the default method to connect via WiFi to my Debian machine. I am doomed! [Splash.] [ tomas wonders whether a more proactive stance could have put the situation on a more even keel.] [Exit stage left and right.] -- Brian.