On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 19:52:19 +0100 Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue 28 Sep 2021 at 19:12:27 +0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 16:12:21 +0200 > > <to...@tuxteam.de> wrote: > > > > >.. > > > > > > But this wasn't my point. My point was rather that it is going out > > > on a thin limb to say a complex piece of software isn't "buggy". > > > > > It's a matter of degree. All software has bugs, even if you haven't > > seen them yet. > > Never a truer word. This is the "keep them on tenterhools" style of > support. > > > But only some software can be fairly described as 'buggy'. I have no > > hesitation at all in declaring most of libreoffice to fall into this > > category, with Base still virtually unusable i.e. extremely buggy. > > Calc isn't too bad. Volume of users, I suppose, but Base will never > > gain many users in its present state. > > I have never used libreoffice. You have succeeded in persuading me > never to install it. I didn't say it wasn't useful. I use Calc quite heavily, Draw and Writer occasionally. I have tried hard to use Base, it would be excellent for quick-and-dirty interfaces...if it worked. As it is, for Q&D I tend to use phpmyedit, or php itself for something more permanent. I still miss MS Access, by far the best bit of software they ever made. > > > Claws-Mail verges on 'buggy', with frequent crashes. Firefox on my > > unstable has blown through buggy and burst out of the other side. I > > can only name two commercial websites which do not crash its tabs > > within about thirty seconds. And that's after reinstalling it and > > all its dependencies. I haven't bothered reporting it because I'm > > obviously the only person seeing this. I blame JavaScript, as I do > > with most web infelicities. > > The one machine here with Claws-Mail has *never* seen a crash due to > it (or anything else, for that matter). What am I doing wrong? Not running unstable? Not running a very old unstable? > > Firefox? Works. Well. As it does on my other Linux machines. And Windows, for that matter. The problem is some part of my unstable environment. > > > But my unstable desktop, including hardware, is in its last weeks of > > life, so I'm not putting too much effort into fixing things. A new > > installation should fix a multitude of sins. > > New installation? Another sid? That should make a difference. > I would have thought so. A new installation should be different in a great many small ways, as an upgraded system will never be identical to a new one installed using the same software. This one, as far as I can tell, has been in continuous use for between twelve and fifteen years, which I reckon to be a good age for an OS instance. Thanks to Debian for making it even possible. -- Joe