On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 08:56:36PM +0200, Oliver Schoede wrote: > On Fri, 03 Sep 2021 20:50:06 +0200 > Sven Joachim <svenj...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > >Version 91 is only in experimental. > > > > Probably blocked by some Rust stuff again. Anyone who's waiting and if > possible please get a flatpak and get on with your life. Debian is > providing that for a reason, too. We've been at the same point about a > year ago when on some mailing list it was suggested Debian should just > provide a flatpak. A joke of course, well I think it was. Still I > decided to actually give it a try and have been happily using two of > these since then, Firefox, and Chromium, which itself is too often > vulnerable in Sid. Perhaps in the future distributions should really > consider making do with, say, Firefox ESR and direct users who need > "more" to something anyone can sort of agree on and flock together, > that might well be avenues like Flatpak or AppImage. Container > solutions are certainly not the be-all and end-all but I don't see much > of a drawback for a case like this. You'll spend about a GiB extra, > it's basically pulling its own small userland, once. Command line use > needs some getting used to, kind of like systemd, hardly surprising if > you know where it's from. But easy enough, same with desktop > integration. There's no sane reason for using an outdated web browser > today. If you want or need to stay purist, there is always ESR. > > Oliver >
This is the problem with web browsers getting bigger, more complex dependencies, more infrastructure complexities - and it has always been so. Web browsers are also the go-to applications for stress testing any machine once again. Flatpaks and appimages are fine if they can be built - there's every chance that they, too witll be hit by this sort of thing at some point. Firefox ESR is actually releatively reasonable in terms of how fast it moves - it still isn't easy for anyone to build. [And upstream show no particular interest in Firefox for other architectures - so have fun if you're running arm]. At some point, bookworm will settle a little more and it will be feasible to start providing lots more in bullseye-backports. In the interim
