On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 21:31:33 +0200 Alexandre Garreau <galex-...@galex-713.eu> wrote:
> Le mardi 13 juillet 2021, 16:09:50 CEST Celejar a écrit : > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:08:53 +0300 > > > > Reco <recovery...@enotuniq.net> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 08:01:58AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > > Github (Gitlab, Sourceforge, etc) were and are non-free (as in - > > > > > non-gratis) services, so it's only reasonable to stay away from > > > > > them > > > > > regardless of whom is controlling them. > > > > > > > > What do you mean by calling them non-gratis services? I know that > > > > some > > > > of their services are non-gratis, but basic code hosting certainly > > > > is > > > > gratis. > > > > > > You do not pay for these services, yet they provide them to you and > > > everyone else (with certain exclusions). > > > Guess who is the product here? The answer is - you are the product. > > > Payment involving money is not the only kind of payment that you can > > > make today. > > > > I think that's an unreasonable definition of gratis and non-gratis. If > > a FLOSS dev gets an ego boost, or even some sort of spiritual > > satisfaction, from people using his software, does that mean it's > > non-gratis? > > An ego-boost doesn’t grant power, that is, possibility of action of your > will on the actions of others. Payment is not the same thing as power. > But github as a platform provides a great deal of power to microsoft. > They litterally own your data. Maybe not your programs, but maybe all > your metadata + what was listed later (bugreports, etc.). As does Signal, etc. > The mail you answer to sadly didn’t explain concretely what is the > payement, and how you can make money from it. The answer is: selling > personal data. Both what you output, what comes from you, and what is > inputted to you, what to see. Knowing what you say, what you see, what > you like to see, and deciding it sells very profitably nowadays, agueably > more than oil. Celejar