On Vi, 21 aug 20, 21:06:05, john doe wrote:
> 
> When I can not get the command I want, I break it down to the simplest
> command as possible then I build from there to the command I realy want.

Have you considered that solution(s) found might not be usable in the 
bigger context, basically wasting your time (as well as of those trying 
to help you)?

Kind regards,
Andrei
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