Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 08:50:44PM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > What is searched for in Debian is the ability to remove the bloatware > > which was not present at the time of installation. > > But... but... it's precisely DURING the installation that most of the > crappy "bloatware" GETS ONTO THE SYSTEM!
What?! > > How meny people do you think install GNOME or KDE or XFCE separately > after the install, as opposed to ACCEPTING A DEFAULT during the install? The way you put it, those GNOME or KDE or XFCE would be part of the "pristine system" and I'm fine with it. But *many* people do install productivity tools, office tools, games, developer environments separately after the install, and then regret it and wish to get rid of them cleanly. > > > > dpkg --get-selections > /root/initial-packages > > > > > > Just hold on to that file, and it will allow you to return to this > > > state on the same machine, or conceivably even a different machine. > > > > Out of itself, this file will not allow me anything. But Charles Curley > > has named the debfoster utility which seems to do the closest thing to > > what I wanted to achieve. > > What?! > > It does PRECISELY WHAT YOU STATED you wanted to do! Well, I wanted a degree of automation, not just a "dpkg --get-selections | diff /root/initial-packages -" for visual analysis and manual removal. > > > Thanks again to Charles and if there are no other propositions, I think > > we can close this thread. > > Because you cannot be reasoned with? Sure, yes, OK, that is definitely > a reason for me to stop talking to you. > > I stand by everything I've said here. You have a secret agenda, and > your stated goal, which I told you how to accomplish, is not your > actual goal. I like conspiracy theories too. > That's why you rejected the solution you were given. I did not reject the solution I was given. I thanked Charles Curley for it, I think, at least twice. > > Call me bitchy or whatever you want, but I can SENSE this bullshit from > a mile away, and this is why I react the way I do. You react the way you do because you turned out not flexible enough to understand the problem and not knowledgeable enough to suggest a solution, which other people did. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/
