On Sunday 14 December 2003 2:37 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Al Davis um 17:21: > > On Thursday 11 December 2003 03:56 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher > > > > wrote: > > > Yes, many ISPs do that, and it's a good thing. > > > We all would drown in spam if they accepted mail from > > > everywhere. There is absolutely nothing you can do except to > > > use your providers mailserver. > > > > On Saturday 13 December 2003 04:46 am, Joerg Rossdeutscher > > > > wrote: > > > It is a good thing. What kind of mail comes from dynamic IPs? > > > In 99% it will be spam from open relays, misconfigured > > > adresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]),... > > > > > > ...... Not everyone should use a private > > > mailserver. Hobbyists and Freaks should not run such service, > > > it's a job for professionals, and those have a static ip. I'm > > > really tired of writing a lot in mailinglists an get lots of > > > "You mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could not be delivered..." > > > > So you believe the ISP should censor our mail, or at least be > > given the opportunity? You believe that "Hobbyists and Freaks" > > especially need for their mail to be subject to screening, but > > corporations don't? > > Censorship? Nonsense. > > Running and maintaining a mailserver is a difficult job. Incorrect > configured mailservers can cause a lot of problems to others. So > everyone should be forced to use a providers machine as smarthost.
Running and maintaing software is a difficult job. Incorrect configured
software can cause a lot of problems to others. So everyone should be
forced to use a providers machine to run software.
> If your provider filters mail, adds advertisings etc... blame the
> provider. Choose another. We don't talk about modifying content.
If your provider filters your software use, adds advertising etc...
blame the provider. Choose another. We don't talk about modifying
content.
> Examples:
> My provider allows "just" some thousand mails to be sent (sent! Not
> received!). This is a lot more I can write, but whenever I cause a
> mailloop it will not be endless.
Examples:
My provide allows "just" some thousand programs to be used (used! Not
looked at!). This is a lot more I can use, but whenever I cause a crash
it will not be fatal.
> Whenever I misconfigure my MUA and send mail with an invalid Reply-To
> ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") my provider will not deliver the mail.
Whenever I misconfigure my preferences and use an invalid Menu command
("File->Save As...") my provider will not save the file.
> If I misconfigure my machine as an open relay and someone sends lots
> of spammails from my machine, a lot of providers will not accept that
> mail. And if I configured it to use my providers smarthost after some
> thousand mails my providers stops it, see example 1.
If I misconfigure my machine with users having no passwords and someone
runs lots of annoying programs from my machine, a lot of providers will
not accept those packets.
> Local mailservers are childish, dangerous and nonsense.
Local software is childish, dangerous and nonsense.
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Wesley J. Landaker - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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