Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2020 01 Feb 13:48 -0600, Joe wrote: >> Whether you read or not, Debian is getting more complicated, and >> therefore more problems are occurring. > > True to a point but then we have more complicated systems to deal with, > including but not limited to, EUFI and Secure Boot, which I use on this > desktop. I did not have Secure Boot enabled when I installed Debian > again in late 2018 but I did enable it later on. Now the only trip up > is that I must sign any VirtualBox kernel modules which I have a script > that will do so. > > Other things have become vastly less complicated as a user and > administrator of my own systems. Xorg is completely self configuring. > Gone are the days of mode lines and crossing your fingers. USB devices > are trivial these days as is networking. Sure, sometimes things go > astray and trouble ensues, but there is still plenty of help to be found > when issues arise. Perhaps it is easier for me having experience from > the mid '90s forward with Slackware and almost 20 1/2 years experience > with Debian. > > Some point to systemd as needless complication. As a user/my own admin, > I find it really no worse than init scripts (I'm no shell scripting > guru). In fact, there are features I do find useful. I also trust Debian > to provide a rather well behaved implementation and so far I have found > that to be true. > > Modern computers are nothing but complicated. As a result they require > a lot of complicated software. Fortunately, much of what I've learned > over the years is still applicable. Sure, some things are no longer > needed and learning new skills is required, but remaining static holds > no future in today's world. > > - Nate >
absolutely agree with you

