I decided to try out the
non-graphical installation version, and it works good. I like it.
It works the way it should work.
But the graphical version is horrible. From now on I will stick
with the non-graphical version for installing Debian.
With the graphical version, some items when you click on them, you
get some kind of results, other items when you click on them, do
nothing.
With the graphical version, it takes you in circles. Around and
around you go, where you'll stop nobody knows.
With the graphical version it takes for ever to try to get simple
things done.
With the non-graphical version, I can zip through it quickly and
get it set up the way I want, and be done with it in a short time.
Wayne Sallee
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Wayne Sallee
writes:
What partitioning tool are you talking
about?
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When I think of the debian partitioning tool, I think of this one:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2014/04/pngqsHcq7etg4.png
It is very good in the sense that it exposes a lot of features
(e.g. wrt.
RAID, Encryption and LVM) in a consistent user interface. At least
it is
much more consistent, than interacting with the different software
pieces
for RAID, Encryption, LVM separately.
It has worked well for me every time I used it and that was
possibly ~30
times and at least three different Debian versions (I think I
installed
lenny, squeeze, stretch). It has not stayed exactly the same
between the
versions, but it does not change in ways that would confuse users
which know
(any?) previous version.
I have seen a lot of other partitioning tools, integrated in
installers and
outside of them. Outside installers, tools are often more focused
on a
specific task (like Gparted to do partitions and partition tables
but not
RAID setup etc) which means one would need to learn multiple tools
to
achieve a working system. To learn how it works, I also setup
MDADM-Raid
and LUKS-Encryption a few times by using the respective tools, but
it was
much more involved than just relying on the installer. From my
point of
view, the installer does such good a job at partitioning, that it
would make
sense to have just that feature as a standalone program to call on
systems
which are already installed [I know that I can boot the installer
for this,
but partitioning without stopping unaffected services would be
nice, too].
The other partitioning systems I have seen in installers were
often quite
strange, because they tend to offer a "guided" mode like Debian,
but in the
"manual" mode still do some (to me sometimes unexpected) things
automatically. E.g. if you install Windows 10, IIRC, there is a
manual
partitioning step which automatically creates two partitions if
you create
one for the system drive... Another style of installation is with
the CentOS
installer: I think I like it acceptably well, too. But being a
more "modern"
looking GUI program, I must admit that for the few times I have
used that
installer's partitioning features (three times or so), I needed to
figure
out how to "apply" my changes anew each time. Debian's
dialog-driven wizard-
like interface requires a few more keystrokes, but makes indicates
quite
clearly if it has taken a user's input or not, thus I think it is
better-
suited for this critical but rarely-executed task.
[Note that I am not N. Dobigeon, just /my/ opinion on what the
Debian
Partitioning tool and its merits are in case it might help to find
out what
exactly is wrong about the partitioning step and how it can be
improved...]
YMMV
Linux-Fan
*Subject: * Re: Debian Installer, Manual
Partitioning is a Joke
*From: * Nicolas Dobigeon
Your mail is a joke,
I think debian partitionning tool is the best i tried.
It's your taste but don't tell it's a joke.
Le 29/09/2019 à 16:56, Wayne Sallee a écrit :
Debian really needs to work on the
manual partitioning part of the
installation.
It's absolutely pathetic.
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