On Mon 05 Nov 2018 at 10:51:34 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 04 Nov 2018 at 16:53:19 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 04/11/2018 à 16:44, David Wright a écrit : > > > On Sun 04 Nov 2018 at 15:51:21 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > > Le 04/11/2018 à 14:52, Steve McIntyre a écrit : > > > > > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean that all packages with Priority: standard and their > > > > > > dependencies are supposed to be present in installation CD images ? > > > > > > > > > > Correct. That's part of the design. It works well, until reality > > > > > changes underneath us like this. :-) > > > > > > > > Well, if I am counting right, this is not true for the multi-arch > > > > netinst image : > > > > - 85 packages found in the main section for i386. > > > > - Only 43 packages found in the multi-arch CD image main section. > > > > > > > > Is it an exception because a netinst image is not supposed to be used > > > > without a mirror ? > > > > > > I was under the impression that "netinst" stood for "network installer", > > > so the image only contains what's essential to bootstrap a standard > > > system (or greater) from the network (Internet or local mirror). > > > > Netinst images contain everything required to install a functional > > basic system even without a network. > > Sure, except for the fact that I don't know how your "functional basic > system" is defined. But I am assuming that it's something less than > your system (above) with "all packages with Priority: standard and > their dependencies", which is designed to provide "a reasonably small > but not too limited char-mode system" (Debian Policy Manual). > > The Installation Guide quantifies this difference as approximately > 187MB of disk space, using *their* definition of "minimal base > installation", which is installed by not selecting "standard system > utilities". > > What it is, exactly, that you get by installing from netinst without > any Internet connection whatsoever would, I think, require an > experiment. I'm not in a situation to try that as (a) I'm not at home, > (b) I only have this laptop, (c) the images on it are i386 and amd64 > single architecture ones, (d) I've no wherewithal to back it up. > Whatever it is, it's what I was referring to as the "bootstrap" > system (above). It seems that Brian is more familiar with its recent > incarnations; it's some years since I played around with methods of > minimising Internet throughput during installation.
There are two situations: 1. No network is set up: everything comes from the image. 2. The network fails during the installation: no resolution of a URI happens and d-i waits about for a while before continuing as in 1. -- Brian.
