On Monday 20 August 2018 08:29:14 Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 5:51:24 PM -04 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:15:43 Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:37:05 PM -04 john doe wrote: > > > > On 8/19/2018 9:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > > > > > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it > > > > > autopartition and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home > > > > > partitions. But I didn't let it overwrite the grub on the 1st > > > > > drive it was/is booting wheezy from. > > > > > > > > > > I figured I'd mount it to wheezy and copy over my personal > > > > > stuff, like an email corpus well over 15GB reaching back to > > > > > 2002. > > > > > > > > > > But I can't mount much of the drive, / is all that will > > > > > actually mount, because the 2 versions of ext4 are > > > > > incompatible, nearly all the mount and e2tools can't touch the > > > > > installers ext4 file systems. > > > > > > > > > > For instance, its not mounted: > > > > > gene@coyote:~$ e2fsck /dev/sdb8 > > > > > e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012) > > > > > /dev/sdb8 has unsupported feature(s): metadata_csum > > > > > e2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck! > > > > > > > > > > And of course whats installed to wheezy is the latest > > > > > available wheezy version of e2fsck. > > > > > > > > > > Whats the recommended way to do these mounts so I can maintain > > > > > as much continuity as possible? > > > > > > > > Maybe using apt-pinning. > > > > > > > > In other words, installing the version of Stretch/Jessie on > > > > wheezy. > > > > > > > > On the wheezy host, can't you backupt on an external hardware? > > > > > > In those cases I usually boot a recent live-CD (or USB-stick) like > > > KNOPPIX and mount and copy from there. > > > > I just rebooted to it, and I found a desktop interface that will > > wear out a set of batteries in my mouse weekly because it takes at > > least 8 to 10 clicks and some scroll wheel work just to find a #@%# > > terminal, and it can't even add tabs to a different shell either! I > > didn't install anything special for a desktop, took the default > > because I intended to replace it with TDE asap, and going from 10 > > workspaces, 4 of which have multi-tabbed (up to 7 tabs each) > > konsoles running on them, with a pulldown text menu to run half the > > stuff I run on the other workspaces, to a single window, single > > tasking system thats worse than the last windows box I was asked to > > configure the networking on, was very disheartening. So I added the > > trinity stuff to /etc/apt/sources.list.d using mc to copy that from > > the old disk, changing the wheezy in the deb line to stretch, and > > that did not get me the TDE desktop I've been using for years, but > > did get me some sort of a warning window that was taller than my > > screen, fussing that some repo I hadn't added, was duff. If debian > > is trying to kill itself, it was a heck of a good start, not even a > > windows user looking for something better would be impressed. > > > > The only thing that Just Worked was the networking, it took > > everything for a static net and Just Worked on the reboot. That was > > a rather pleasant surprise considering the only stretch based > > install on my rock64's that works at all was armbian. None of the > > other arm|hf|64 *bians will accept a gateway assignment except as as > > a route command after a login. > > > > I'm burned out for today, my cataracts might have to be the next > > thing I fix. > > With KNOPPIX to do such simple things as copying don't boot into the > X-Window. On boot enter: knoppix 2 > (look at the cheat code) > and you have text only > use mc if you must or want > > Sorry but I don't have time to wade through rants ...
Sometimes they can be educational, and I try to make mine so if you can get past my frustration, but in this case its partly my own fault, a naming confusion on my part, I had put the wrong dvd-1 for 9.4 in the reader, when I should have used the adapted stretch from the LinuxCNC guys. I have now burned that one, and if I don't install a desktop at all, then my tde install will be clean and hopefully uncontaminated by what is obviously a broken gnome. Trying to make it look and run like windows 95 is IMO a huge mistake, but one that I must say debian has done remarkably well. Bring back the pulldown text stuff where 2-3 clicks gets you anything installed. > All the best > Eike Thanks Eike. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
