Hello, Well, find behavior and hidden files was not the intended topic of this thread ;) I do already know about Ctrl+H, ls -a, etc. And indeed my find command is incorrect since I forgot the dot or some wildcard at the beginning. After correction, I can say there is no .xsession-errors file on my system. The only matches were /usr/share/xsessions /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc
So yes, it may be strange if usually there is plenty of X session errors. After googling, I looked at /var/log/messages with a lot of, well, messages that I didn't found interesting and related to my problem. I also looked at /var/log/gdm3/ but it was empty. Regarding the boot errors, I have plenty of them as with any laptop I've seen running with Linux since laptops tend to have weird hardware. However, despite the same boot errors since I installed Debian on this laptop, the bug I'm talking in this thread was not present until a few weeks ago. I also forgot to say that soon after the bug started I found that hitting the super/windows/apple key works despite the click not working. And I already know some people out there will say "problem solved, he can put up with the bug". Best regards, Laurent Lyaudet 2017-11-12 17:32 GMT+01:00 Laurent Lyaudet <laurent.lyau...@gmail.com>: > Hello, > > Thanks for your feedback. > > Laurent Lyaudet wrote: > > >> >> My install is up-to-date with latest security updates (that's the > >> >> first thing I do anytime I start my laptop). > deloptes wrote: > > There is a rule: "never touch a running system" which means if something > > works let it work. through your process you are exposed to bugs without a > > way back. this is just an advise to review the process > > I think this is a very bad advice. > You should always be uptodate with security updates since there is plenty of > people ready to exploit already corrected security issues. > > The people that correct these security issues do this hard work for a reason. > > Never let your system stay insecure or say people to do so, unless you want > them to be screwed by perverts behind a computer. > > > I don't use Gnome, because gtk with the concept behind caused a lot of > > trouble long time ago and could not convince me that it will ever get > > better so I can't help much. But ... there should be logging facility and > > you need perhaps to enable something somewhere to see where it is coming > > from or what is happening when the problem appears. > > > I usually look first in ~/.xsession-errors > > > someone else perhaps could help on where and how to debug gtk/gnome > > Thanks for this indication. I found no such file with : > > find / -name 'xsession*' > > I will google for gnome error logging. > > > Best regards, > > Laurent Lyaudet > > > > 2017-11-10 21:47 GMT+01:00 Laurent Lyaudet <laurent.lyau...@gmail.com>: > >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for the response. >> I did not install any gnome extension or tweaking tools for gnome. >> So I'm afraid the cause is somewhere else. >> Note that if it's a malware, I'm glad you cannot reproduce the bug ;) >> >> Best regards, >> Laurent Lyaudet >> >> >> >> >> 2017-11-10 21:22 GMT+01:00 RRRoy BBBean <rrroybbb...@gmail.com>: >> >>> On Fri, 2017-11-10 at 20:26 +0100, Laurent Lyaudet wrote: >>> > Hello Roberto, >>> > As you suggested, I took my laptop at work and tested with the wifi >>> > there. >>> > I reproduced the bug also there. >>> > I don't know if I can reproduce it with any wifi network but at least >>> > it is >>> > not particular to my home network only. >>> > >>> I tried this on my computer. I cannot reproduce the error. >>> >>> Last year I was working a lot with Gnome3 on Fedora24. I was installing >>> and trying out lots of cool Gnome Shell Extension. After a few days, I >>> noticed that various Gnome-related things started acting crazy or not >>> working at all. I deinstalled most of these additional extensions, and >>> now (on both Fedora and Debian) I stick with the default Gnome Shell >>> Extensions plus a small number of additional extensions that I can't >>> live without. >>> >>> Let me suggest that if you have installed additional Gnome Shell >>> Extensions on top of the defaults, you remove them and see if the >>> problem goes away. You will probably need to restart your laptop to be >>> sure you get a clean load of Gnome. >>> >>> >> >