Hello,

Well, find behavior and hidden files was not the intended topic of this
thread ;)
I do already know about Ctrl+H, ls -a, etc.
And indeed my find command is incorrect since I forgot the dot or some
wildcard at the beginning.
After correction, I can say there is no .xsession-errors file on my system.
The only matches were
/usr/share/xsessions
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc

So yes, it may be strange if usually there is plenty of X session errors.

After googling, I looked at /var/log/messages with a lot of, well, messages
that I didn't found interesting and related to my problem.
I also looked at /var/log/gdm3/ but it was empty.

Regarding the boot errors, I have plenty of them as with any laptop I've
seen running with Linux since laptops tend to have weird hardware.
However, despite the same boot errors since I installed Debian on this
laptop, the bug I'm talking in this thread was not present until a few
weeks ago.

I also forgot to say that soon after the bug started I found that hitting
the super/windows/apple key works despite the click not working.
And I already know some people out there will say "problem solved, he can
put up with the bug".

Best regards,
   Laurent Lyaudet


2017-11-12 17:32 GMT+01:00 Laurent Lyaudet <laurent.lyau...@gmail.com>:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Laurent Lyaudet wrote:
>
> >> >> My install is up-to-date with latest security updates (that's the
> >> >> first thing I do anytime I start my laptop).
> deloptes wrote:
> > There is a rule: "never touch a running system" which means if something
> > works let it work. through your process you are exposed to bugs without a
> > way back. this is just an advise to review the process
>
> I think this is a very bad advice.
> You should always be uptodate with security updates since there is plenty of 
> people ready to exploit already corrected security issues.
>
> The people that correct these security issues do this hard work for a reason.
>
> Never let your system stay insecure or say people to do so, unless you want 
> them to be screwed by perverts behind a computer.
>
> > I don't use Gnome, because gtk with the concept behind caused a lot of
> > trouble long time ago and could not convince me that it will ever get
> > better so I can't help much. But ... there should be logging facility and
> > you need perhaps to enable something somewhere to see where it is coming
> > from or what is happening when the problem appears.
>
> > I usually look first in ~/.xsession-errors
>
> > someone else perhaps could help on where and how to debug gtk/gnome
>
> Thanks for this indication. I found no such file with :
>
> find / -name 'xsession*'
>
> I will google for gnome error logging.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>    Laurent Lyaudet
>
>
>
> 2017-11-10 21:47 GMT+01:00 Laurent Lyaudet <laurent.lyau...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the response.
>> I did not install any gnome extension or tweaking tools for gnome.
>> So I'm afraid the cause is somewhere else.
>> Note that if it's a malware, I'm glad you cannot reproduce the bug ;)
>>
>> Best regards,
>>    Laurent Lyaudet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-11-10 21:22 GMT+01:00 RRRoy BBBean <rrroybbb...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2017-11-10 at 20:26 +0100, Laurent Lyaudet wrote:
>>> > Hello Roberto,
>>> > As you suggested, I took my laptop at work and tested with the wifi
>>> > there.
>>> > I reproduced the bug also there.
>>> > I don't know if I can reproduce it with any wifi network but at least
>>> > it is
>>> > not particular to my home network only.
>>> >
>>> I tried this on my computer. I cannot reproduce the error.
>>>
>>> Last year I was working a lot with Gnome3 on Fedora24. I was installing
>>> and trying out lots of cool Gnome Shell Extension. After a few days, I
>>> noticed that various Gnome-related things started acting crazy or not
>>> working at all. I deinstalled most of these additional extensions, and
>>> now (on both Fedora and Debian) I stick with the default Gnome Shell
>>> Extensions plus a small number of additional extensions that I can't
>>> live without.
>>>
>>> Let me suggest that if you have installed additional Gnome Shell
>>> Extensions on top of the defaults, you remove them and see if the
>>> problem goes away. You will probably need to restart your laptop to be
>>> sure you get a clean load of Gnome.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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