On Wednesday 30 August 2017 09:47:35 Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Well, that easy to remember method just went down in flames. 
> > Sigh...
>
> That's the first diffuse but significant wisdom we found in this
> thread:
>
> If you can memorize it without the help of publicly knowable details
> of your life, then it's too easy to enumerate with nowadays' hardware.
>
>
> Another wisdom is that Theodore T'so, a well reputed and mindful
> person who is also the kernel maintainer of "RANDOM NUMBER DRIVER",
> flatly thinks that /dev/random is legacy as soon as the system is
> fully up.
>
> The reason why this is still not fully reflected by the man page is
> not yet uncovered.

Maybe a wee bit of security by obscurity?  There is that I think in 
everyones thinking on this subject.  They don't want to price the farm 
so cheap that it will actually sell.

> It might have its roots in the sloppy mathematical discussion style of
> people like those quoted in
>   https://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/#experts
> except, i'd say, Thomas Pornin who is quoted with
>   "indistinguishable from true randomness, given existing technology."
> Probably the others have moments of more exactness, too. But at least
> in their quotes this is not to see.
>
>
> An important argument is that of the armored safe with cardboard
> backplane.
>
> If you have a really good password and really manage to memorize it in
> your brain alone, then there are other real life methods to get to
> your private stuff.
> Insofar i confess that all my resisting and objecting is more sport
> than real business. My aplogies to all annoyed bystanders. I will do
> it again.
>
Please do.
>
> Have a nice day :)

You too.

> Thomas


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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