That's not exactly what I'm seeing. I began seeding the Debian 9.0 installer image on 6/17 and the Live image on 6/20, when the 9.0.1 released.
debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso 171.36 GB debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-gnome.iso 157.90 GB debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-cinnamon.iso 107.85 GB debian-9.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso 3.50 GB The net install doesn't really count since the Debian site has a direct link to download it, and people are unlikely to bother with such a small download over Bittorrent. Note: Dejan, sorry for the direct email. Meant to email the list. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Jason Wittlin-Cohen < jwittlinco...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's not exactly what I'm seeing. I began seeding the Debian 9.0 > installer image on 6/17 and the Live image on 6/20, when the 9.0.1 released. > > debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso 171.36 GB > debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso 157.90 GB > debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-cinnamon.iso 107.85 GB > debian-9.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso 3.50 GB > > The net install doesn't really count since the Debian site has a direct > link to download it, and people are unlikely to bother with such a small > download over Bittorrent. > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Dejan Jocic <jode...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 18-07-17, Jason Wittlin-Cohen wrote: >> > Many people have had issues installing with the Live installer on this >> > mailing list. The question is why Debian even offers the option if >> there >> > is no interest in testing it to make it work. The initial live >> installer >> > images (9.0, before 9.0.1) were completely broken and could not even >> begin >> > the install[1]. Clearly, this resulted from a complete lack of testing >> as >> > it would have been easily caught given that it is a deterministic error >> > that to applied to ALL the live ISOs. I think it's unfair to blame >> users >> > for using the Live media as an installer. Either test the live images >> to >> > make sure it can be used for installation on a wide variety of >> hardware, or >> > don't provide the option at all. It appears that the debian-devel >> mailing >> > list HAS called for more testing due to this situation with the explicit >> > threat that live images will cease to be produced if nobody wants to >> test >> > them [2]. With that said, users should always use the regular d-i >> > installer images to do an actual install. The live images are useful >> for >> > testing to see if your hardware is supported and also for recovery. >> > >> > Takeaway: If you want to install Debian, either use the network >> installer >> > (small installation image) or use one of the DVD images (large >> installation >> > images), NOT the live disks. You can download either here: >> > https://www.debian.org/distrib/. Only use the Live ISOs to test out >> Debian >> > and to ensure hardware support. If you have a need for non-free >> firmware >> > to complete the install (e.g. non-free network firmware for wifi >> devices), >> > use the images here >> > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd- >> including-firmware/9.0.0+nonfree/amd64/bt-dvd/ >> > . >> > >> > [1]https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/9.0.1-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ >> > [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/06/msg00335.html >> > >> >> Trouble is that live images are, judging by my torrents, most popular >> media of choice. Just debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-gnome.iso was uploaded for >> 23 GB, while debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso is on 14.68 GB and >> debian-9.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso is on 463 MB. So, something in big red >> letters should be there on Debian site as a warning for people not to >> download live for install. At least till we get 9.0.2 live iso. >> >> >> >> >> >
