On 9 June 2017 at 08:01, Fungi4All <fungil...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > UTC Time: June 8, 2017 4:17 PM > From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 11:08:32AM -0500, David DLC wrote: > > Thank you for all the replies! I haven't really used a mailing list > before, > > so I'm not 100% sure I'm responding to the correct location. Do I hit > > "reply all" or just reply to the debian-user@lists.debian.org address? > > For this mailing list, you are expected to .......... > > > whaaat ever .... > > > Anyway, I have disabled secure boot, but that didn't seem to solve the > > problem. My computer does not have a DVD drive, so I put the ISO ( > > debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso) on a USB stick. When booting my > computer, I > > specifically click "use a device", then "USB Drive (UEFI)". The computer > > runs for a minute, then pops up the error message. I don't think boot > order > > would change this, as I am booting specifically from the USB. I forgot to > > mention that I am attempting to dual boot my computer, so I don't wish to > > remove Windows completely. > > If you used Windows to put the ISO image onto the USB stick, it's > quite possible it wasn't done correctly. > > > Get used to Greg on this list making vague assumptions on things and > blaming the victim for anything the victim is having problems with, never > the system. The system must not be challenged. > In trying to convince others to switch from windows to a better and higher > performing system, despite of hardware, one must learn to work with windows > to begin with, because nobody is willing to wipe everything they have off > and start with a clean disk. > Rufus in my experience has been 100% reliable in burning images of all > sorts. It is small and fast. If in reverse try from linux to burn an > ms-win-installation image, chances are that you will fail despite of what > way you may try to do so. Propbably Thomas from xorisso fame can explain > better the whys and why nots. I give up trying to understand the reasons. > Let's hope you do not live in isolation, there are others with a pc around > you and not all run win10. Try and boot your stick in their system, no > harm can be done if you don't install anythin. If by any chance you make a > debian-live-installation image you may even get to see debian come a-live > without an installation. > Since the debian world is really poor in applied technical information > location, try the ubuntu (askubuntu) for help/faq. It is a friendlier > environment and easier to find solutions. 99% of what you will find there > works for debian too. Especially on this specific issue there is a ton of > instructions. > > The #debian bot currently recommends <http://sf.net/projects/ > win32diskimager/> > if you need to write the Debian install image to a USB device from > Windows. > > > I am willing to bet the image written through rufus is fine, your problem > is booting up from usb as people have mentioned before. I like to assume > that you did not install win10 in an older pc but bought a recent pc with > win10 in it. The following will not help you "fix your problem" but it is > more like talking about THE problem so your frustration is not misdirected > to the wrong direction. > MS with win10, using the excuse of a protection of your system, managed to > effectively block other systems of getting installed next to win10. >
Is this really the case? I use windows 10 and it does not stop me running a triple boot system on a single disk. Try using grub2win: https://sourceforge.net/projects/grub2win/ - install it in windows 10 and play around with it and see if you can get it to see your usb stick. Regards MF > So ms to promote themselves and diminish competition (what's new?) did > what they did. Then they manhandled manufacturers to incorporate their > evil into what they sell to you. And you paid for this problem to your > ventor. Did you know when you purchased your product and license you > became part of the problem people are addressing to solve? > Why not a worldwide class action suit against manufacturers, vendors, and > retailers of all sorts for not warning you the product is nearly useless > without win10? Thanks to some who resist and make and sell linux based > products off the shelf. Let's not talk about fruit vendors here. > If not, you deserve what you got, and I am sorry to have to tell you. I > think you should go back to whoever sold you a lemon for an apple and make > them either pay you back what you paid of install Debian for you on your > partition. It should only take 20' not several days. > Ohhh... you accepted some license that told you so in the fine print? I > am sorry! Really .... keep paying for problems you distribute around. > > If you're doing it from a Unix/Linux system, then follow the > instructions at <http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03> > > > I have given up reading any documentation from debian, it is all written > by developers for engineers and vice-versa. If you are not one of them it > is a waste of time. If you read the instructions on how to write a > document from your pc to a usb disk, chances are that you will need to > learn 5 more things to do so, and each one of them will require learning 5 > other new things, and so on and forth and back. It is easier to copy the > document in marble with a cheasel than learn all this. Depending on your > psychological profile you may actually like all this. Welcome to our world > of whips and chains. > > It is nowhere as boring as windows world but you never have to worry of > buying the wrong license. > > Now if you would rather install a more humaine and civil system try > Manjaro. The choice is like a Pegasus with broken wings, constantly, and a > horse incapable of flying. > Greg will convince you the horse is capable of flying, you just need to > understand how or accept that it was you that broke its wings. > > Cheers, mate > Keep the shiny side up (an old bold bikerz for jessaash saying) >
