On Sat 22 Apr 2017 at 13:34:41 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/22/2017 01:00 PM, Brian wrote:
> >On Sat 22 Apr 2017 at 11:56:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >>On 04/22/2017 06:47 AM, Brian wrote:
> >>>On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 15:16:52 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On 04/19/2017 02:31 PM, Brian wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>As I have detailed elsewhere,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/04/msg00578.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>the card becomes visible to GRUB with its nativedisk command. The OP has
> >>>>>a reader which does not show an SD disk in GRUB and does not boot from
> >>>>>it. Perhaps he could take some time to see whether this command does
> >>>>>anything for him.
> >>>>
> >>>>I just received my USB SD card reader this afternoon. Attempting to
> >>>>reproduce the results of your ...msg00578 is on my TODO list. I'll not 
> >>>>have
> >>>>time for Debian until Monday. I did have the opportunity to do a quickie
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for considering testing. However, it is likely not to work for
> >>>you because your 5-in-1 appparently is a Ricoh reader on the PCI bus.
> >>>You can check this with 'lspci'. Failure is also indicated by the
> >>>presence of 'root=/dev/mmcblk0p1' in your grub.cfg. AFAICT, GRUB does
> >>>not have modules for SD/MMC devices, so nativedisk would have nothing
> >>>to load to drive the device.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Monday came early - IOW the project I was working on collapsed and I needed
> >>a break.
> >>
> >>I attempted to run the tests you described in Paragraph 4 of
> >>.../msg00578.html.
> >>My notes are:
> >>>
> >>
> >>>with no usb devices present, I get
> >>
> >>>(ahci) (ahci0,msdosXX) (ahci1)
> >>
> >>>where XX maches the partions on my "hard disk" {it is actually a
> >>>solid state drive which was manufactured to be a plugin replacement
> >>>for original mechanical dive (aka 'spinning rust'}.
> >
> >I have no experience with SSD but am with you up to here.
> >
> >>>I don't know what (ahci1) is.
> >
> >Neither do I.
> >
> >>>Repeating above with empty card reader I get:
> >>
> >>>(ahci) (ahci0,msdosXX) (usb0a) (usb0b) (ahci1)
> >
> >I assume 'nativedisk' has been run prior to getting this output. GRUB
> >now sees USB devices. They can only have come from the card reader.
> >
> >>>I repeated the above with the SD card plugged into a USB card reader
> >>>getting:
> >>
> >>>(ahci) (ahci0,msdosXX) (usb0a) (usb0a,msdos1) (usb0b) (ahci1)
> >>
> >>>When not using "nativedisk" in the second case I get:
> >>
> >>>(hd0) (hd0,msdosXX) (hd1) (hd1,msdos1)
> >
> >I'd take that to be the SSD disk and whatever is in the reader. (hd1)
> >has a partition. In principle, it could be booted from.
> >
> >>I'll not attempt "Edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom to have ..."
> >
> >When I spoke of "5-in-1 reader" I was using your description in
> >
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/04/msg00505.html
> >
> >IOW, I was referring to the reader which is inbuilt into the Lenovo. Are
> >these data for when your recently purchased USB reader has been used? If
> >not, there is some thinking to be done.
> >
> 
> Any line containing "(ahci)" was after having used "nativedisk".
> Any line containing "(hd0)"  was after *NOT* having used "nativedisk".
> The only time the SD card was seen was when the USB reader was used.
> All lines followed a power off/on cycle to force identical starting
> conditions.
> 
> My reference to "5-in-1 reader" was reference to
> https://www.cnet.com/products/lenovo-thinkpad-t510/specs/ .
> I have no means to verify CNET's statement.
> 
> I'd place more trust in my statement in
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/04/msg00729.html saying:
> On the Lenovo ThinkPad T510 which started this thread I ran lspci as root.
> I believe the relevant lines are:
> 0d:00.0 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd MMC/SD Host Controller (rev 01)
> 0d:00.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5U2xx (R5U230 / R5U231 /
> R5U241) [Memory Stick Host Controller] (rev 01)

That looks about right. I'd be interested to know what the BIOS can
see, ie before Grub has loaded. I would predict you can see the USB
but not the MMC/SD card slot. (Note that you will probably need to
insert something in them to stand _any_ chance of seeing any of them.)

BTW did you notice that the webpage gave the battery life as 7.8 sec!

Cheers,
David.

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