On 2017-03-14, Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> wrote: > > > On 3/14/17 4:37 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> On 2017-03-13, Erwan David <er...@rail.eu.org> wrote: >>> Le 03/13/17 à 20:40, Greg Wooledge a écrit : >>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:30:11PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>>>> The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. So why >>>>> at install time, is there no choice for the init system? You get what >>>>> the developers decide. Yes, you can install a new one -- I've done it >>>>> and it works -- but only after the install. It'd be a lot easier, if >>>>> there were a choice to begin with just like whether you want a GUI and >>>>> which one. >>>> Because the number of people who want to run a new version of Debian with >>>> an ancient and deprecated init system is probably in the triple digits, >>>> worldwide. >>>> >>>> You are a member of a small minority. It's not reasonable to expect >>>> that a whole bunch of time will be spent making install images with >>>> alternative init systems for such a small demand. You have a solution >>>> which works just fine. >>>> >>> So why don't you use windows, if you despise minorities ? >> Using Windows on a server or a phone would put you in a minority. >> >>> Your email is both insulting and contemptful. If this is your only >>> argument, that's bad for the point you pretend to denfend. >> You are overreacting. Greg's point is that there is little demand for an >> installer which allows a choice of init system, and that spending time >> on providing such an installer would not be justified. You are welcome >> to disagree with that assessment, but please leave out the emotional >> codswallop. >> > There USED TO BE a lot of demand for a choice of installer at init time > - from pretty much all of us who object to systemd. Nobody listened, > eventually people gave up, and a lot moved to other distros. > > Miles Fidelman > >
As I said, you are welcome to disagree with Greg's assessment. By the way, do you have any evidence (other than anecdotal) of an upsurge in support for non-systemd distros? You have mentioned it twice in this thread already. -- Liam
