On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:00:06 +0000 Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday 19 December 2016 18:58:43 Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:38:51 +0100 > > > > Vincent Lefevre <vinc...@vinc17.net> wrote: > > > On 2016-12-16 18:06:26 +0000, Joe wrote: > > > > Do you have X running? > > > > > > Not always. > > > > > > > I use Synaptic in these situations, where it is easy to try > > > > packages to see what can be upgraded without removals I'm not > > > > willing to accept. > > > > > > But that's not automatic (aptitude can also do that, and one can > > > undo a choice if it yields removals). > > > > Difficult to see how it could be automated, as sometimes it's a > > value judgement as to whether to temporarily sacrifice application > > x in order to upgrade y immediately, or whether to wait a while. > > Occasionally, a package is removed permanently, and there's no > > obvious way of differentiating such a removal from a temporary > > dependency issue without resorting to a search engine. > > > > And I know that aptitude can do all kinds of amazing things in > > interactive mode, but I have some kind of mental block about it. > > I've tried learning it two or three times, and it seems to be just > > about as counter-intuitive to operate as anything possibly can be. > > I have nothing against curses programs, I use mc in preference to > > other file managers for admin work on my workstation, which does > > run X at all times. I just don't get on with aptitude. > > aptitude can do a lot on the cli. I don't get on with n-curses > programs. That's not to say that you personally would like it any > better, of course, but one doesn't have to use n-curses to use > aptitude. > Yes, I drive it cli, except for my sid installations that are rarely upgraded: aptitude isn't really up to 500-package dependency calculations. But elsewhere I use it in general preference to apt-get. -- Joe
