On Monday 21 November 2016 23:34:06 Kaj wrote: > Den 2016-11-21 17:18, skrev Kent West: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Kaj <70147pers...@telia.com > > <mailto:70147pers...@telia.com>> wrote: > > > > Den 2016-11-21 15:53, skrev Kent West: > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:41 AM, <70147pers...@telia.com > > > > <mailto:70147pers...@telia.com> > > > > <mailto:70147pers...@telia.com> <mailto:70147pers...@telia.com>> > > wrote: > > > A[fter a reinstall of Debian] all looked very fine, and > > I decided to > restart the computer. The first observation was that > > suddenly all the > devices defined and mounted in /etc/fstab > > appeared as icons on the > desktop, and I could not remove them. > > Next was that all of my > settings of Caja file manager were gone. I > > use to make some personal > adaptation: first I prefer one mouse > > click to open a file from the > icon, the list view instead of icon > > view and a few other options like > these. Until now all of these > > settings has been saved and restored at > every login, but now they > > are lost and has to be redone every time. > The same deals with the > > wi-fi password, I have to write it in at > every login. > > Next > > observation is that I can add no program starters to the panel. > > > Well, yes, I can add one starter, but no more, they do not appear > > > there. I can remove the first icon, and add another one, but still > > > just one. Creating them, even more than one, on the desktop causes > > no > problem. If all these effects come from the same source I do > > not > know, but I suspect they do. Some package might have > > unintentionally > been removed, but if so I have not been able to > > find out which one. I > have made reinstalls of al lot of them, e.g. > > mate-panel, but without > any result. Could anyone find the common > > factor, I would appreciate > it. If nothing else I will of course > > make a new reinstall, but it > takes a good deal of time, and I feel > > it ought to be unnecessary. > > Regards Kaj > > > My first guess is > > that when you didn't wipe your /home partition, you > preserved your > > old home directory, and then logged in after the > reinstall with > > the same name but different user ID, which means not > all of that > > directory belongs to you. > > I'd log out, switch to a VT > > (Ctrl-Alt-F2), log in as root, rename > your user directory (mv > > /home/kaj /home/kaj.bak), delete your current > user (deluser kaj), > > and then recreate your user (adduser kaj), so > that you have a > > fresh user directory. > > This is only one of two or three ideas > > that come immediately to mind > as a way to deal with / test my > > theory that your user directory > doesn't have the correct perms, > > but they all boil down to suspecting > your user directory perms, > > and fixing them. > > I doubt very seriously that a reinstall is > > needed. > > -- Kent > > > > > -- Kent West > > <")))>< Westing Peacefully - > http://kentwest.blogspot.com > > > > Hi Kent. Thank you for your answer. > > > > A wee of your thoughts I have had myself. Among others I have > > earlier noticed that all these hidden config files residing in the > > home directory can give very confusing results when you install a > > previously used program in a new environment. So I tested to move > > all these hidden directories, all starting with a dot, into a > > specially created directory, in order to being able to put personal > > settings back when the problem is solved. When running the > > different programs, you can see how they create new hidden > > directories to put their config files in. > > > > So this I have tested without success. Next I have created a new > > user (test) with an own, new home directory. No success on that > > neither. > > > > So I think that I have tested the essential parts in your > > suggestion, even if I have not been that drastic to clean my home > > directory completely. > > > > One reason for my suspicion of a mistakenly removed program is that > > the removal of PulseAudio also took away of a lot of other programs, > > e.g. Gimp. Those I have had to lay back manually afterwards. Despite > > a lot of searching however, I have not found which program or > > service is lacking. > > > > /Kaj > > > > > > I'd next try a different desktop environment ("sudo tasksel" might do > > the job easily). If that works, you'll have a good indication that it > > has something to do with MATE/Marco/Caja. > > > > > > -- > > Kent West <")))>< > > Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com > > Thank you Kent for the hints on how to solve my problem. Well now I have > stepped out on unknown ground. I had never had any reason to use this > program tasksel, and hence knew nothing about it. But well, after > reading the man page, I gave it a try, and installed the LXDE > environment. After reboot I found that most of, maybe every, program I > had installed in Mate is here too. Maybe not so strange, but a welcome > observation. So far I have not tested all these, so I do not know if > they also behave the same as in the old environment, but I assume they > will. At least Thunderbird is the same, as far as I can see now. > > Another observation is that all the icons of devices mounted via > /etc/fstab is not on this desktop, so that is an advancement. > > However, the settings in Caja did not survive the logout and reboot. > They have to be defined once again.
But did they survive after you re-entered them in LXDE and rebooted? Lisi > > So half a step forward, but we are not at the goal yet. > > But thank you so far, > > Kaj
