Hi, (i maintain GNU xorriso but do not speak for GNU or FSF)
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > their objection to some of Debian might be easily fixable The Debian position is that one should help people to install on hardware of which the manufacturer imposed unsurpassable obstacles for pure FSF-compliant systems. Classic is the wireless hardware which you need to connect to the internet in order to get the bulk of Debian packages. If Debian does not provide the free-as-in-beer software blobs to drive the hardware, or if Linux would not offer opportunities to attach such a software blob, then the laptops in question would be reserved to proprietary OSes. It is a matter of policy priorities. So it can only be settled if one side gives in despite believing to be right - or if the need for free-beer-only blobs vanishes. (The model is "free as in free beer" versus "free as in free speech". The owner may at any time close the beer tap, but nobody is entitled to forbid the continuation of chatter.) > if Debian became more stringent in order to get off GNU's > gnaughty list page there Not really likely, i'd say. We will stay on the grey list and will have to feel bad conscience when making use of Debian's offer to help installing non-free software. Ubuntu is one step further towards the beer tap. It aims at the mindset of M$ and iMac users. Things have to "just work". For that goal they are accused to sell little pieces of their souls. (Only SteamOS will get a place nearer to the infernal fire.) > firmware-iwlwifi package [...] remembering feeling really guilty It's forgiven, now that you confessed publicly. I hereby confess to still use xv. Have a nice day :) Thomas
