On 26/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky <pe...@ludikovsky.name> wrote: > That is more than risky. > 1) Iceape is EOL since 2013: https://www.debian.org/security/2013/dsa-2819 > 2) While Ubuntu is based on Debian, there's (sometimes) a huge > difference in the software releases shipped: > * libc6: 2.11 (Debian 6) vs. 2.21 (Ubuntu 15.10) > * libssl: 0.9.8o vs. 1.0.2d > * libgtk: 2.20.1 vs 2.24.28 > So there's a good chance iceape won't even install, and if it does, > you might experience strange behaviour, or nothing at all. > > Regards, > /peter > > Am 25.02.2016 um 16:27 schrieb Bret Busby: >> On 25/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky <pe...@ludikovsky.name> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Yes, and no. You can run `apt-get -d install iceape`, and it will >>> download the package, and the missing dependencies, to >>> /var/cache/apt/archives/. However, if you want to install something on a >>> machine without internet access you might be better off with apt-medium >>> [1], although I never used that. >>> >>> And I'm sorry, but I don't understand your second question. I assume >>> that you think that the security repository is independent of the >>> others, but that's not so. A Debian installation usually uses 3 >>> repositories together: >>> * A "base" repo, containing the release packages >>> * A "security" repo, containing security fixes for those packages >>> * An "updates" repo that serves updates for non-security relevant bugs >>> >>> As always, we might be able to better help you if you can give us a >>> description of what you want to do. >>> >>> Regards, >>> /peter >>> >>> Am 25.02.2016 um 09:32 schrieb Bret Busby: >>>> On 25/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky <pe...@ludikovsky.name> wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Searching for a single .deb & trying to install that is the way >>>>> proprietary systems handle it. With Debian, and most other Linux >>>>> distros, there's repositories, and tools to handle dependencies. Open >>>>> a >>>>> command line / terminal and enter >>>>> sudo apt-get install iceape >>>>> >>>>> It will pull iceape, and all dependencies, from the Debian repos, and >>>>> install them. >>>>> >>>>> Updates are handled similarily. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> /peter >>>>> >>>>> Am 25.02.2016 um 07:08 schrieb Bret Busby: >>>>>> Hello. >>>>>> >>>>>> I searched for a .deb package, for iceape, so that I could download >>>>>> the package for the iceape suite, to try to install it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ahat I found, is apparently submerged in a "security pool". >>>>>> >>>>>> I found that what is apparently provided as the iceape suite .deb >>>>>> package, is just something that has endless unsatisfiable >>>>>> dependencies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is an installable .deb package for the iceape suite, available? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Is there a way (a switch for the apt-get command?) to download all of >>>> the dependencies? I have looked at man apt-get, and, that has an >>>> option "download" (as opposed to install or find), but I could not >>>> find, from the man entry for apt-get, how to download the package and >>>> all of its dependencies; that is, to download the particular package, >>>> and, its dependency packages, so that they can be stored, and, >>>> installed (or, tried to be installed) on different systems as wanted. >>>> >>>> Also, does a means exist, for specifying a particular repository for >>>> only the particular instantiation of the command, so that, for >>>> example, as iceape is only in the security pool repository, to specify >>>> only for the installation of iceape (or, if it can be done, for the >>>> download of iceape and its dependencies, to a directory on the >>>> computer), the particular repository path? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> Okay. >> >> Explicitly, what I want to try to do, and, the reason that I want to >> know whether the repository can be specified for only, and, limited >> to, a single instantiation of a download or install command, is to >> try to install iceape on a Ubuntu installation. >> >> iceape has functionality that seamonkey does not have, and, the >> specific functionality that I want, is the primary reason for me >> wanting to try this. >> >> I do not know whether iceape and seamonkey can be concurrently >> installed on the same system. >> >> With the LTS for Debian 6 (which I believe to be the latest version >> operating system for which iceape is an available package), due to end >> on Monday, I want to try an installation on a system, to install >> iceape on a new installation of UbuntuMATE 15.10, so that I would >> install UbuntuMATE on the system, and then try to install iceape. >> > >
I am not sure how it all works out, but I have just searched, and, the seamonkey.deb package that I have installed, and, have been running, on my UbuntuMATE 15.10 installations, is version 2.29, which I had understood to have been the latest available version of seamonkey, as a deb package, and, the release date for seamonkey.deb v 2.29, appears to be 2014-09-27, so it is 14 months old, and, that would also make it two STS versions of Ubuntu, old (14.10->15.04->15.10). The thing is, as I had said, I would TRY to install iceape on UbuntuMATE 15.10, if I could, via a suite .deb package, or, a sufficiently similarly simple method of installation. In searching for the release date of seamonkey.deb 2.29, I have now found that seamonkey.deb 2.39 is available, so, as I do not know how to perform an upgrade using the ubuntuzilla repository (?), I intend to install the latest applicable version of seamonkey.deb, when I install UbuntuMATE 16.04 LTS. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................
