What was I thinking? (I have some distractions going on right now). dist-upgrades?
Of course. Earlier in this sequence I did ask, to track testing permanently, should I do: sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I presume that's what you meant. Is the answer yes, then? But if so, wouldn't that only have to be done once, followed by periodically doing: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ??? On 1/25/16, Francis Gerund <ranr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Jochen. > > 1) You are correct. It should have been: > >>Then, I did: > >>sudo apt-get check >>sudo apt-get update >>sudo apt-get upgrade >>sudo clean >>sudo autoclean >>sudo autoremove > > My mistake. Sorry. > > > 2) Run dist-upgrades? No one mentioned that (to me), and I did not > know anything about that. > > Hopefully I can find some information on that. > > I thought that once I upgraded to testing, I would be much like stable > - just generally sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and check, > clean, autoclean, and autoremove from time to time. > > > 3) No, I don't want to make it easy to break my system, but I do > want/need to track testing. Stable is just too stale. > > I don't feel like testing, unstable, etc. should be only for the > nobles, and denied to the mere peasants (like me). > > I have read/heard all the warnings about system breakage. I do back > up my data. And I can reinstall if necessary. > > I have begun to suspect that the Debian "powers that be" deliberately > don't make upgrading to testing/unstable/experimental clear and easy, > in order to discourage people from doing it. Speculating upon the > reasons that might be is left as an exercise for the reader . . . > > ;-) > > > On 1/25/16, Jochen Spieker <m...@well-adjusted.de> wrote: >> Francis Gerund: >>> >>> Then, I did: >>> >>> sudo check >>> sudo update >>> sudo upgrade >>> clean >>> autoclean >>> autoremove >> >> What are these supposed to do? I suppose they are apt operations, but >> don't make us guess. Always quote the exact commands you are using. >> >>> But, should I now do: >>> >>> sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade >>> sudo dist-upgrade >> >> If you want to track testing, you will need to run dist-upgrades from >> time to time. If you upgrade from stable without doing that, your >> upgrade is incomplete. You should know that if you want to run testing. >> >>> Which brings me to my final point. I honestly thought it was a >>> simple,easy question, that would relatively quickly receive a simple, >>> easy response. I was surprised that upgrading from stable to testing >>> is still not a simple, clear, idiot-proof operation. After all, this >>> is 2016 . . . right? >> >> Do you want to make it easy to break your system? Because that's what >> tracking testing or unstable can do. If you run anything but stable, you >> need a certain set of skills so that you are able to fix many problems >> yourself and report issues that are not only temporary and might affect >> other users. >> >> J. >> -- >> I am getting worse rather than better. >> [Agree] [Disagree] >> >> <http://archive.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html> >> >
