On 2015-11-22 at 13:26, Brian wrote:

> On Sun 22 Nov 2015 at 08:16:50 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> 
>> Felix writes:
>>> IIRC this change has to do with systemd
>> 
>> It happens even when not using Systemd.
> 
> Possibly something to do accomodating systemd-shim.
> 
>> From the xinit changelog;
> 
>   * 10-startx-Under-Linux-start-X-on-the-current-VT.patch,
>     11-startx-Pass-vtX-as-long-as-the-user-did-not-specify-.patch: By default
>     start the server on the current VT, this is necessary to avoid logind to
>     see the startx session as inactive (Closes: #743015 LP: #1247484)

In other words, it's a consequence of logind, which is part of the
systemd suite and is shipped in the systemd package.

So yes, this change does have to do with systemd - just not with the
binary named systemd, or with the init system which is (theoretically)
contained within that binary.

AFAIK I've yet to restart X since the xinit version in question hit my
system, but if I'm now going to be affected by this behavior despite not
having logind even installed on this machine, I will be - once more - at
least mildly irritated. I don't even see any indication (in 'man
startx', which is the obvious appropriate place) of how to disable this
behavior, either on the startx command line (which would be unacceptable
anyway) or in a config file...

(Digging a bit finds what is probably the appropriate command-line
option in 'man Xorg', but still no obvious indication of where to set it
in a config file, given that I have no xorg.conf and creating one seems
undesirable for other reasons.)

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   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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