On Monday 02 November 2015 04:33:01 Rick Thomas wrote: > On Nov 2, 2015, at 12:45 AM, Joe <j...@jretrading.com> wrote: > >> To be honest, I see no reason at all why two package managers > >> needed to be included in standard install. If you aren't happy with > >> apt-get, just apt-get install aptitude. It seems beyond question to > >> me that having bare minimum to start with and adding things you > >> need from there is a much cleaner and better way of doing things > >> than having several tools with the same function and having to get > >> rid of one. So a very sensible change, I only wonder what was the > >> thinking behind the initial approach. > > > > Not in the base system, no, but I'd expect it to be included in any > > system which might be used by newcomers to Linux. A lot of Internet > > sites include installation instructions using aptitude, without > > mentioning any alternatives, or even that there are any. Similarly, > > a desktop system other than a minimalist one should include > > Synaptic. > > > > -- > > Joe > > +1 for Joe. > > Requiring a newcomer to install aptitude before she can follow the > simple step-by-step instructions she downloaded from the web — or > alternatively requiring all the helpful folks who posted those > step-by-step instructions to go back and modify them… That’s not what > I’d call “newbie friendly”. > > Rick
+2 for Joe. And because synaptic uses some x fancies that aren't available to root if exec'd with a sudo, there is synaptic-pkexec, which asks you for you user pw and then runs normally on your x-sessions screen IF you are allowed to sudo. Why this is such a closely held secret, I have NDI. I see it as a way to discourage its use, when IMO, its the best package-manager out there. Aptitude? A major PITA everytime I am forced to relearn it. It may be capable, but it its for sure not intuitive. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>