On Sunday 09 August 2015 01:15:41 David Wright wrote: > Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > > > David Wright writes: > > > > I'm hoping that the current discussions regarding its > > > > unsustainability end up in some sort of subscription model, whereupon > > > > there's no reason to disqualify people overseas. > > [...] > > > We are talking about the ordinary broadcasting, which is available to UK > > living Licence payers. (Or Licence non-payers, David. ;-) ) > > > > Not everything is available after the event on iPlayer anyway. But they > > try to ensure - unsuccessfully - that only Licence payers get any of it. > > The iplayer is available to anyone in the UK, regardless of whether > they have a paid a licence fee or not. That's one of the reasons > the current scheme is so unfair.
Yes - that is indeed part of the minefield. I was over-simplifying. But it was based originally on the assumption that UK people pay. > > > They > > control the Licence very badly, and we need a new model. How can you > > reasonably ensure, with today's technology, that someone only watches > > television live on a TV? > > I think you need to phrase that the other way round. If you watch or > record *any* live TV, you need a licence. Yes - but how can they control that? Realistically, they can't. They have to define the difference between a TV and a computer, for a start, which is getting more and more problematic. They simply can't "ensure that someone only watches TV live on a TV". But I think I have just seen what you mean. You can legally watch it live on a computer if you have got the licence. And if you have not got the licence, you cannot legally watch it live anywhere. But how, if you have neither a licence nor a TV, can they police it? They can't. > If you only acquire the > programmes after a delay (streamed or downloaded *after* the broadcast), > then you don't need a licence. (Am I right in thinking they only > recently moved PVRs into the licence requirement? We still have three > though their contents are all from our fee-paying days.) Minefield again. I confess that I don't know where we have got to with PVRs. As I said, we need a new model. But it is a complicated enough minefield without bringing Time Warner in! ;-) I think I may have misunderstood. Do you have no licence, because you have no TV, or not pay a Licence because you are given one? As if I shan't have enough to do if my husband predeceases me, I shall have to acquire a paid-for TV Licence rapidly, if I am not to have their bulldogs after me. Or I suppose that I could just get rid of the TV!! Fast. And watch iPlayer after the event. Though not everything is available that way. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508090139.16790.lisi.re...@gmail.com
