On Monday 22 June 2015 09:49:39 Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Andrew McGlashan <[email protected]> writes: > > If it quacks like a duck, it's a .... duck, plain and simple. > > > > I absolutely agree with the post that systemd is a "cancer" > > And I think Debian can do fine without people who only contribute > toxic behaviour. And yes, calling other projects a cancer is just > that. > > Ansgar
I don't know as I'd call it a cancer and have little to judge it by since I'm still on wheezy. Since the main application I run is based on wheezy, that will only change when the next big thing is truly "stable". But from the tone of the messages, I think its clear that it should have spent another 6 months on the back table in a lab someplace, getting the kinks worked out so the end result for the unwary user who has not encountered it before, will not be encountering the setup headaches in the quantities that are currently generating all the derogatory comments that it is. There is a delicate balance between putting it out there to get wider feedback when its ready for "prime time", and just plain jumping the gun. Obviously this balance wasn't considered, it wasn't quite ready for prime time and this is the end result. Predictable? Probably by someone who hasn't yet sampled the koolaid. Now everyone including me are scared of it. Can you blame us? I think its foolish of the defenders to do so, and that genuine comnplaints should, since its now out there for everyone to kick its tires that wants to, be addressed in a timely, speedy manner. I am not seeing, nor am I looking for patches yesterday for tomorrows problems. What I am seeing is far more bashing of the conmplaining user, and less fixes than the current situation seems to need. An old farts 2 cents. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: https://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

