Le septidi 7 prairial, an CCXXIII, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
> You really do want the last word, don't you?  

Not really, 

> Anyone with Pierre's problem can use his solution to make his speaker work.  

Or they can use the solution to make their problem worse. This is the most
likely outcome with such a hacky work-around.

This is precisely the problem I am warning against with this kind of
non-solution: if you are lucky, you may be able to get things working right
now, but you are preparing a lot more trouble for later. This is ok if you
are doing this for yourself, after all you are just wasting your own time.
It is not ok to advertise it without proper warnings.

I have come to expect that kind of attitude on the Ubuntu webforums, I would
have hoped it was more frowned upon on Debian mailing lists. I am sad to
observer it is not the case.

> You have offered no better solution, even though one does probably exist.

I have given relevant information: the kernel option only changes the order
of the sound cards, aplay is the preferred tool for debugging, the error
message points to a faulty ALSA configuration.

> And remember, you have twice said that you are not going to say anything more 
> or spend any more time.  You'll do us all a favour if you stick to that, 
> unless you have something helpful to say that will solve the problem in a 
> better fashion than Pierre has.

My message was not intended for Pierre. Pierre can fix his problem with
"sudo rm -rf /" for all I care. My message was intended for all the readers
of this list archives who may be tempted to follow Pierre's advice without
realizing it will make their problem worse.

I do not intend to reply Pierre further, and you neither. That does not mean
I will not if someone has new arguments for the discussion, or on the
opposite adds more misleading information.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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