On 10/04/2015, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday 10 April 2015 10:25:14 Bret Busby wrote:
>> So, I have found xfce, on Debian 7, to be too dangerous.
>
> I seem to remember that XFCE has "lock" and "on" as the default on screen
> saver.  This is surely almost normal now?  Anyhow, if it mattered the onus
> was surely on you to check what the defaults were?
>

Since you selectively edited my post, so that the above is now out of
context, I believe that I had previously stated that, in trying to
find the screensaver, having found reference to screensaver, only
under the Settings component, I had taken that to mean that selecting
Screen Saver, under the Settings heading, meant that I would be
configuring screensaver settings, which would have allowed me to see
what settings existed, BEFORE me adjusting screensaver settings, and,
especially. NOT being misled by the software developers, into
unwittingly and unwillingly, running the application, thus, as it
stands, the application is a trojan horse.

>> Even more incentive to stick with Debian 6, even after the LTS has
>> expired.
>>
>> It seems that, on the eve of the release of Debian 8, Debian 7 is
>> still, even less stable and functional, than Debian 6.
>
> You really can't blame Debian 7 because you don't like XFCE.  I very much
> dislike KDE4, but I don't blame Wheezy.  Nor can you blame any Debian
> version
> for the antics of the Gnome developers.
>

In terms of blaming "any Debian version for the antics of the Gnome
developers", why did Debian simply not retain GNOME2, and refuse to
accept the later versions of GNOME, with the GNOME people deliberately
crippling GNOME, after GNOME2?

As I have previously stated, elsewhere, I have not been able to get a
screensaver and screenlock, to properly run, on Debian 7; the only
thing that I have found, so far, is the trojan horse that is part of
the xfce interface, and, on a previous occasion, as what had appeared
to have been an orderly system shutdown, apparently failed (the system
shut down, but then led to a system failure, with no power lights or
anything, on trying to later, power up the computer), requiring the
system to be taken to a hardware service place for repair, and, as I
have as yet been unable to get Debian 7 to find a connected (and yes,
connected and powered up, before booting the computer) external
monitor, on two separte compters "running" Debian 7, then, yes, I
believe that my experience is that Debian 7 still has a way to go,
before it is functional and stable.

Debian 7, to me, is still "testing", and, it is very testing.

It has certainly made a fool of me, having caused me to take a
computer to a hardware service place, about 40km away, for hardware
repair, due to what was done to the system, by Debian 7.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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