2015/01/13 5:04 "Ric Moore" <wayward4...@gmail.com>:
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> On 01/12/2015 11:50 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
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>> You should learn from some REAL security experts, not the internet.
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> Like who? There are compromises all over the net, with consumer security
files lying in the open like gutted bleeding fish. I don't think anyone is
a "REAL security expert", except the ones breaking in. Any advances we have
now is result of closing the barn doors after the cow got out. I guess we
owe the BlackHats that much. :/ Ric
>

Can I read you as saying that the black hats may be the closest thing to
security experts that we have?

I was thinking I agree.

But I also think we are letting them define security.

I keep forgetting that I don't like the definitions they seem to want to
impose on us.

Joel Rees

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