Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com> writes: > Please don't top post. > > > On 22/11/14 20:50, lee wrote: >> >> Didier, >> >> you have *totally* missed the OPs point. >> >> BTW, since you assume that no "systemd takeover" > > Hyperbole much?
? >> what has been the outcome of the GR to support multiple >> init systems? > > It lost. Developers are not being forced to do what they don't want. > The winner was "developers will work it out themselves" i.e. Debian won. Huh? Does that mean that the users are left to deal themselves with the problems that could arise from this? >> Other than that, the OP has a good point. I found that every time >> something is related to the freedesktop stuff, > > Freedesktop just provides hosting. Substitute Sourceforge for > Freedesktop and see how well your "theory" flies. "freedesktop.org is open source / open discussion software projects working on interoperability and shared technology for X Window System desktops. The most famous X desktops are GNOME and KDE, but developers working on any Linux/UNIX GUI technology are welcome to participate."[1] [1]: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ >> it's not understandable >> at all because the documentation utterly sucks or doesn't even exist. >> It's an entirely dead end. >> >> Do we really need or want that? If we need it, what for? If we want >> it, wouldn't we be much better off using Windows? > > Please replace "we" with "I" - it gives the misleading impression you > speak for the vast majority when you only speak for yourself. Please learn to read and to understand what you're reading, and you may find that I was asking questions. To draw a map for you, try replacing "we" with "users". > Note that opposition to *the choice* of using systemd 'probably' > constitutes less than 1% of users. Noise, repitition, and FUD doesn't:- > ;increase that percentage > ;give you credibility > ;justify your bullying > and works against those that have genuine problems with systemd. And why do you mention this here? Did you read the OPs post? > The appropriate, polite way to deal with things you don't like - is > speak *once* and state your case fully when you do. It's healthy to > express concerns - it's unhealthy, to all, when you flood forums with > them. The means justifies the ends - and bullying doesn't end well. And you are the one to define for everyone what is to be considered as "polite"? >> I want to know what's going on with my computer. Freedesktop stuff >> prevents that. > > Clearly it's not a project's choice of hosting that prevents your lack > of knowledge. How is this relevant? >>Nobody understands udev rules, > > Again - you're incorrect, and speaking for yourself. Show me ten Debian users who understand them. > *I* am not the only person who understands udev rules - far from it. > (small hint: I read the man files - my lips didn't even get sore!) > >> and I'm not happy that > > > Noted, many, many times - that you behave like a bad child. > <snipped> Lol, are you really that stupid? > Can we Debian Users have the list back now please? > Feel free to continue your campaign on Debian Abusers - it'd be more > appropriate. Don't you think. I don't know what you're referring to. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87y4qvay5x....@gulltop.yagibdah.de
