In an effort to keep a ration discussion from sliding into a pointless flame-war.
On 23/11/14 02:07, Martin Read wrote: > On 22/11/14 09:50, lee wrote: >> Nobody understands udev rules, > > Challenge accepted. > > *looks at /etc/udev/rules.d* *looks at /lib/udev/rules.d* > > I'm honestly baffled that someone who is capable of comfortably using > emacs thinks these files are incomprehensible. They appear to be written > in a domain-specific declarative language with a fairly straightforward > syntax. And easily copied and customised to suit individual needs. Pick any period of *Linux* (!=UNIX) history and it's always been difficult (requires effort and time to learn[*1]). Part of the problem some of us that have been using it for a long time suffer from - is that we've long forgotten what it was like to learn to ride a bike, so it can appear that anything new is relatively harder to learn in comparison. > > *runs "man 7 udev"* > > Yup. Pretty straightforward. Some highly-commented example files would > be *nice*, but I don't see anything particularly intimidating in there. > > Agreed[*2] - but that won't faze the "la la la I can't hear you" crowd with their pitchforks and fickle sticks from lugging the goal posts of "*nobody* understands udev rules" in their blind idealistic Gish Gallop[*3] "drown out the truth" campaign (sigh).[*4] FWIW I've previously posted a simple, step-by-step guide on how to write udev rules to this list - that actually has been used by a 12 year-old to write her own custom udev rule. If one of the "Veteran UNIX Administrators" can't do it - all that says is that there's a wide range of skill levels that constitute "administrator" (facepalm). [*1]As does anything build upon the knowledge of previous generations - we live in an era where no one person knows everything required to make something as simple as a pencil. Which IMO is not a good reason to revert to using only things that can be build from a cup of spit and two twigs. [*2]http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html is useful, on my long list of "things-to-do" (that I'll probably never get around to doing) is to propose (reportbug) that be added to the udev docs in the debian package. [*3]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop [*4]Picturing hunchback trolls infiltating the peasants surrounding the castle of change (and chanting "here we go, here we go"). Apropos of which I'm old enough to remember the devfs "wars" (now 'that' was a real war you whipper-snappers!). :) Kind regards -- "None so blind as those that will not see" ~ John Heywood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5471194e.7030...@gmail.com
