Guys, For months, I was reluctant to move to `systemd` but, right now, for the first time, I'm seeing some benefits of using it, let me try to explain...
For years, I looked for an alternative (DirectFB, for example) Linux GUI environment that doesn't use Xorg, it is slow, bloated and old fashioned... Then, `Wayland` appeared! If I'm not wrong, this "new era of Desktop Linux" started after Linux 2.6.28 and .29, with the inclusion of GEM and KMS... Good times, BTW! Now, I'm trying to build Enlightenment (`ppa:martinx/enlightenment`) to use it with `Wayland` and guess what?! One of the requirements is that `systemd` "thing"! if you don't want Xorg, you'll need `systemd`. It is solving very old problems for a lots of different projects. So, to achieve my old dream to use a accelerated Linux desktop without X, I'll need `systemd` in the end of the day, so, I'm glad it appeared now! =P Also, when with `systemd`, there is no need to use `enlightenment_start` anymore, this is pretty cool! And there is a second thing that I think it is awesome, "multi-seat" support... Systemd provides a much simpler support for `multi-seat`! A long waited feature (from my part)... Nevertheless, I'm still against this move in Debian, mostly because I don't want to assume elevated risks and, right now, `systemd` will for sure, bring much more risks and instability to Debian. So, lets make the move but, not too damn fast to not burn Debian's image, and everybody's works / jobs. There is NO need to rush this move to `systemd`. So, I can not ask for a `systemd-free` Debian version anymore, since I'm using it [systemd] now. Also, I think that there is plenty of room for a `systemd-compatible` system based on `uselessd + eudev" (yes, `systemd-free` while being `systemd-compatible`), including the possibility to bring kFreeBSD back. Anyway, I'm seeing lots of problems "here and there", lets cal it "TILTS", when using `systemd as PID=1` and honestly, I don't have enough time to keep reporting them all in details, so, keeping `sysvinit-core` at a reliable level is very, VERY important, because at the very first signal of problems with `systemd`, I'll switch back to `sysvinit-core` to make things work okay again (it is the safest bet for now, if you want stability). I have friends that are doing the same... Cheers! Thiago -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cajsm8j2x13z_g2hpkhhj7p+ownwcpctjwkorwpynymdjm+j...@mail.gmail.com
